{"id":67542,"date":"2021-02-08T22:06:38","date_gmt":"2021-02-08T22:06:38","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/?p=67542"},"modified":"2021-02-11T15:44:43","modified_gmt":"2021-02-11T15:44:43","slug":"the-old-mans-back-again-fatima-mansions-cathal-coughlan-on-politics-the-pandemic-and-song-of-co-aklan-his-first-album-in-10-years","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/2021\/02\/the-old-mans-back-again-fatima-mansions-cathal-coughlan-on-politics-the-pandemic-and-song-of-co-aklan-his-first-album-in-10-years\/","title":{"rendered":"THE OLD MAN&#8217;S BACK AGAIN &#8211; Fatima Mansions&#8217; Cathal Coughlan On Politics, The Pandemic And &#8216;Song Of Co-Aklan&#8217; His First Album In 10 Years"},"content":{"rendered":"<h4>Carving out a reputation as one of indie&#8217;s most challenging and erudite lyricists with\u00a0<strong>Microdisney\u00a0<\/strong>in the &#8217;80s,\u00a0<strong>Cathal Coughlan went and <\/strong>did it all again in the &#8217;90s with post-punk five-piece <strong>Fatima Mansions.<\/strong><\/h4>\n<h4>When that band collapsed amid a contractual dispute which nearly sent him over the edge, he recovered to forge a solo career comprising five critically acclaimed albums.<\/h4>\n<p>Now a decade after his last release <em><strong>Rancho Tetrahedron<\/strong><\/em>, he&#8217;s back with a new album\u00a0<em><strong>Song of Co-Aklan<\/strong><\/em>, preceded by a single of the same name.<\/p>\n<p>Here Coughlan tells <strong>Matt Catchpole<\/strong> how his abhorrence of Brexit and Trumpism fuelled his writing on the new record and why he&#8217;s as excited by this release as any in his 40-year career.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_67553\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-67553\" style=\"width: 755px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"67553\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/2021\/02\/the-old-mans-back-again-fatima-mansions-cathal-coughlan-on-politics-the-pandemic-and-song-of-co-aklan-his-first-album-in-10-years\/cathal-coughlan-song-of-co-aklan-cover\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/02\/Cathal-Coughlan-Song-of-Co-Aklan-cover.jpg?fit=1648%2C1640&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1648,1640\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Cathal Coughlan &amp;#8211; Song of Co-Aklan (cover)\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/02\/Cathal-Coughlan-Song-of-Co-Aklan-cover.jpg?fit=640%2C637&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"wp-image-67553\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/02\/Cathal-Coughlan-Song-of-Co-Aklan-cover.jpg?resize=640%2C640&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"Song of Co-Aklan sleeve art\" width=\"640\" height=\"640\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/02\/Cathal-Coughlan-Song-of-Co-Aklan-cover.jpg?resize=300%2C300&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/02\/Cathal-Coughlan-Song-of-Co-Aklan-cover.jpg?resize=150%2C150&amp;ssl=1 150w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/02\/Cathal-Coughlan-Song-of-Co-Aklan-cover.jpg?resize=800%2C800&amp;ssl=1 800w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/02\/Cathal-Coughlan-Song-of-Co-Aklan-cover.jpg?resize=80%2C80&amp;ssl=1 80w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/02\/Cathal-Coughlan-Song-of-Co-Aklan-cover.jpg?resize=200%2C200&amp;ssl=1 200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/02\/Cathal-Coughlan-Song-of-Co-Aklan-cover.jpg?zoom=2&amp;resize=755%2C755&amp;ssl=1 1510w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-67553\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Sleeve art for Song of Co-Aklan by Cristabel Christo<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Like much of Coughlan&#8217;s previous work, the title track off the album is a complex web of acerbic wordplay and contemporary and historical allusions.<\/p>\n<p>Sporting a big friendly chorus, delivered with his much admired croon, it&#8217;s the archetypal iron fist in a velvet glove.<\/p>\n<p>It addresses the pandemic, but not directly, seemingly disparate elements pulled together in the persona of a character being bombarded both literally and metaphorically.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s a \u2018parallax view\u2019 of scenes from the existing predicament, and how we may have got here \u2013 from the Cold War dirty-tricks playground that was the Irish Troubles (in part), to Pan Am flight 103, to Syria in the mid-2010\u2019s,&#8221; Coughlan explains.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I\u2019m trying not to dispense slogans, or preach anything. I see myself as a parasite on world events, not an influencer.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Describing the song as the &#8220;most collagey of anything I&#8217;ve done&#8221;, Coughlan says the lyrical approach came after a friend sent him some of his old verse, run through several waves of auto-translation and then back into English.<\/p>\n<div class=\"jetpack-video-wrapper\"><span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"youtube-player\" width=\"700\" height=\"405\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/e6YL06Za4rc?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;fs=1&#038;hl=en-GB&#038;autohide=2&#038;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" style=\"border:0;\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\"><\/iframe><\/span><\/div>\n<p>&#8220;Much of it was unusable, but it threw out out some odd connections that I might not have come by using my brain alone,&#8221; Coughlan muses.<\/p>\n<p>The method was similar to the &#8216;cut up&#8217; technique deployed by Beat writer <strong>William S. Burroughs<\/strong>. <strong>David Bowie <\/strong>also experimented with the form.<\/p>\n<p>The approach involves cutting sentences from a linear narrative and pasting them together in a different order to create a new text.<\/p>\n<p>Burroughs would also &#8216;fold in&#8217; narratives &#8211; taking two sheets of text, folding them in half vertically and then reading across the folds to create a new line.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;On <em><strong>Diamond Dogs <\/strong><\/em>the cut ups work quite well at times,&#8221; Coughlan remarks, but he suspects neither Burroughs nor Bowie applied the technique quite as randomly as they claimed.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Much as I admire him, I don&#8217;t think David Bowie strikes you as the kind of artist who willingly relinquishes control to that extent,&#8221; he chuckles.<\/p>\n<p>Speaking of his own writing, Coughlan says he might set out with an idea of structure, but tries not to be too rigid in his approach.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I never write with a firm plan in mind, though it does help to have some idea how the thing will turn out. Sometimes things do come very quickly, at least in the first iteration, though I might put them away for a while and return them later. With others it is like the proverbial blood out of a stone.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;It\u2019s more often tortuous than not. I very easily fritter away the grace period where an idea of mine surprises me and brings me to a swift decision about how to finish it up.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Songs for the latest album, though came &#8220;quite quickly&#8221; inspired in part by a tumultuous 2016 that saw the Brexit referendum and the election of Donald Trump.<\/p>\n<p>Brexit and it&#8217;s emplications for the Irish border, in particular, enraged Coughlan, and gave the work added momentum.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;It greatly upset me,&#8221; he says of Brexit. &#8220;The two main areas of unalloyed improvement in my lifetime are the now-generalised (if not global) acceptance of same-sex relationships, and the lack of everyday political violence on the island of Ireland. The fact that any UK government could give so little of a damn about the latter was depressing.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;While the attitude of the average British person to Irish people has become much more accepting than ever before, it seems the ruling class, and especially its new kleptocratic offshoot represented by Johnson, Farage and the rest, is just as contemptuous and ignorant as ever.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Though he has been active with collaborations and live projects over the past decade, Coughlan concedes that <em>Song of Co-Aklan<\/em> has the feel of comeback.<\/p>\n<p>Asked if, after 40 years in the business, new releases still hold the same excitement, he visibly brightens.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;This one does,&#8221; he says, &#8220;Some of them haven&#8217;t, but this one certainly does. I&#8217;ve done more promotion for this than I have for anything in years.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>As if to demonstrate his enthusiasm, he pauses our Zoom chat to give me a sneak preview of new single <em><strong>Owl In The Parlour<\/strong><\/em>, released on Friday.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;It describes the plight of the simple provincial raptor-captor, as he seeks unpaid labour on the Dark Web to maintain his home menagerie for him,&#8221; says Coughlan, giving a running commentary.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;He tells us about his wardrobe and accessories, and his Reddit correspondence in relation to cryptocurrencies of the Third Reich. And it stomps along like a stately glam funeral.&#8221;<\/p>\n<div class=\"jetpack-video-wrapper\"><span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"youtube-player\" width=\"700\" height=\"405\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/7KKri0pTmkI?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;fs=1&#038;hl=en-GB&#038;autohide=2&#038;start=2&#038;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" style=\"border:0;\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\"><\/iframe><\/span><\/div>\n<p>Speaking of the album as a whole Coughlan\u00a0says listeners can expect &#8220;short, snappy songs which aren\u2019t concerned with displaying good taste to the exclusion of getting the job done.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I think it\u2019s fair to say that it snapshots styles from various phases of my musical life, and hopefully uses them to create its own identity. Lyrically, there\u2019s everything from a meditation on how a simple spot of broad-daylight public urination in London can reflect something of the city\u2019s descent into a kleptocrat\u2019s holiday resort, to how, at a certain time of life, we can feel as if we\u2019re already halfway out of the world of the living.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Primarily a lyricist in Microdisney &#8211; &#8220;I was the guy with the microphone, spouting text&#8221; &#8211; Coughlan was determined not to be &#8216;straight&#8217; writer.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Probably the first breakthrough I can remember in the first version of Microdisney involved breaking that linear narrative or instruction to the listener,&#8221; he explains. &#8220;For a time, drugs helped. But like any other tool, they have their time, but it may not be a long time.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Thoughtful and engaging, the quietly spoken Coughlan, doesn&#8217;t come across as the firebrand you might expect from his often caustic lyrics.<\/p>\n<div class=\"jetpack-video-wrapper\"><span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"youtube-player\" width=\"700\" height=\"405\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/m6wNNYwooO0?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;fs=1&#038;hl=en-GB&#038;autohide=2&#038;start=13&#038;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" style=\"border:0;\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\"><\/iframe><\/span><\/div>\n<p>He&#8217;s also refreshingly honest about past mistakes including Fatima Mansions&#8217; &#8220;delusional&#8221; decision to support\u00a0<strong>U2 <\/strong>on the European leg of their <strong>Zoo TV<\/strong> tour.<\/p>\n<p>In a prelude to a more disastrous run-in with their record company, The Mansions&#8217; fourth album <em><strong>Valhalla Avenue<\/strong><\/em> was rejected for release in the US.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;We needed some means of promoting it on this side of the planet. Our big delusion was thinking we could perhaps convert 5% of the arena audience to buy our album and come see us in a small venue another time. But that isn\u2019t how it works ,&#8221; Coughlan explains.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;There were nights, such as in Barcelona Olympic Stadium, where we thought we were getting across, but often we were booed before we\u2019d even played a note.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;The audience when the houselights darkened were disappointed if anyone other than Bono was on the stage. An arena audience is just that, a very specific thing. They want what they know.&#8221;<\/p>\n<div class=\"jetpack-video-wrapper\"><span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"youtube-player\" width=\"700\" height=\"405\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/HaSi2Z74Ou8?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;fs=1&#038;hl=en-GB&#038;autohide=2&#038;start=25&#038;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" style=\"border:0;\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\"><\/iframe><\/span><\/div>\n<p>After the Mansions came to a messy end in 1994, a continuing contractual wrangle with record company <strong>Radioactive Records\u00a0<\/strong>meant Coughlan was effectively prevented from releasing any music for the rest of the &#8217;90s.<\/p>\n<p>Musicians around him, however reluctantly, began drifting away in search of other work and Coughlan was in dire financial straits.<\/p>\n<p>In interviews from around that time he confesses to a crisis of confidence, adopting a &#8220;live fast, die young&#8221; approach, with bouts of binge drinking.<\/p>\n<p>What brought him out of it, he says, was exploring other genres and styles.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I had to find other reasons to stay enthusiastic about doing what I did, and chief among those was making connections with new collaborators like the French woodwind virtuoso <strong>Renaud Pion<\/strong>, for example, and his sometime maestro <strong>Hector Zazou<\/strong> and renewing old connections, like the Irish touring I did with <strong>Nine Wassies From Bainne<\/strong>.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>He says he never feared being forgotten. &#8220;I knew there was a core of people who probably would remember, if only I could get out of the contract jail.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>In 2000 he embarked on his solo career proper, with the release of the <em><strong>Black River Falls <\/strong><\/em>album, but you sense that, even now, he&#8217;s something of a reluctant solo artist.<\/p>\n<p>He recognises there&#8217;s a certain autonomy about it, but then again: &#8220;I get tired of the sound of my own voice pretty quickly&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;It\u2019s easier to take musical chances when you know that no-one\u2019s future is impacted in totality by them, apart from your own,&#8221; Coughlan says of his solo status.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;It can be a bit unsettling to think that forces beyond your control, such as other people\u2019s diaries and need to pay the rent, can either remove that connection when you need it, or delay your work.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;On the whole, it\u2019s more stable for a non-commercial artist to remain mobile and adaptable, as much as they can, and being a one-person operation (at core) is the best way to do that.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>For\u00a0<em>Song of Co-Aklan <\/em>he&#8217;s once again joined by longstanding collaborators including former Microdisney members <strong>Sean O&#8217;Hagan <\/strong>and <strong>John Fell<\/strong>, <strong>Audrey Riley <\/strong>and\u00a0<strong>Fatima Mansions&#8217; <\/strong>drummer <strong>Nick Allum<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_67697\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-67697\" style=\"width: 770px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"67697\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/2021\/02\/the-old-mans-back-again-fatima-mansions-cathal-coughlan-on-politics-the-pandemic-and-song-of-co-aklan-his-first-album-in-10-years\/north-sea-scrolls\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/02\/North-Sea-Scrolls.jpg?fit=640%2C413&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"640,413\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"North Sea Scrolls\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;Coughlan lef with Luke Haines and xxx om Morth Sea Scrolls&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/02\/North-Sea-Scrolls.jpg?fit=640%2C413&amp;ssl=1\" class=\" wp-image-67697\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/02\/North-Sea-Scrolls.jpg?resize=640%2C414&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"414\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/02\/North-Sea-Scrolls.jpg?resize=300%2C194&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/02\/North-Sea-Scrolls.jpg?resize=400%2C258&amp;ssl=1 400w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/02\/North-Sea-Scrolls.jpg?w=640&amp;ssl=1 640w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-67697\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Coughlan (left) with Luke Haines (centre) and Andrew Mueller in North Sea Scrolls<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>He&#8217;s also reunited with <strong>Luke Haines\u00a0<\/strong>(<strong>The Auteurs<\/strong>\/<strong>Blackbox Recorder<\/strong>) with whom he worked on the\u00a0song\/speech show\u00a0<strong>The North Sea Scrolls,<\/strong> which premiered at the Edinburgh Fringe Festival in August 2011.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Luke\u2019s no-nonsense energetic approach to making recordings is something which very much inspires me, and particularly did when we worked on The North Sea Scrolls. I was delighted when he offered to lend help to this record,&#8221; Coughlan says.<\/p>\n<p>Modest about his own limitations as a player and composer, he finds it helps to have a familiar coterie of musicians and friends to bounce ideas off.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I greatly enjoy other people\u2019s input when I\u2019m making a record, as long as &#8211; and this is a biggish proviso to many people &#8211;\u00a0 they\u2019re open to the fact that any record I make might or might not resemble its predecessor. On this record, I have contributions from collaborators from throughout my music life.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;If you connect with people musically, you want to keep the connection going, if you can \u2013 especially for me, as an instrumentalist who\u2019s a bit limited in what he can do. It\u2019s great to know what instrumentalist you\u2019re writing for.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>One collaboration of which he&#8217;s rather less proud, even it they were fun to work on, are the parodic albums he made as <strong>Bubonique<\/strong>, featuring contributions from the late\u00a0<strong>Sean Hughes <\/strong>of\u00a0<em><strong>Never Mind The Buzzcocks<\/strong><\/em> fame<strong>.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Sean was probably the best-known member of what was a revolving (as in vertigo and nausea) cast of people on a project which was convened by myself and <strong>Paul Jarvis<\/strong>, late of the noise rock titans <strong>SLAB!<\/strong> Also with a lot of help from <strong>Rob Allum<\/strong> of <strong>Turin Brakes<\/strong>. It was neither big nor clever, and I can\u2019t say I revisit it, ever.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>That said, Coughlan does reveal a grudging regard for Bubonique&#8217;s &#8220;lounge version&#8221; of <strong>The Birthday Party<\/strong>&#8216;s\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=QNMDgyOZkUg\"><em><strong><span style=\"color: #ff0000\">Release The Bats<\/span><\/strong><\/em><\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s a lyric that even the author would still stand by.&#8221; Coughlan says with a smile. &#8220;And I don&#8217;t think the dark lord {<strong>NIck Cave<\/strong>}, or even The Birthday Party ever played it live.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>In the same way as he seeks out familar musicians for inspiration, when the songwriting well runs dry, Coughlan says he finds himself returning time and again to the same set of influences.<\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"67554\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/2021\/02\/the-old-mans-back-again-fatima-mansions-cathal-coughlan-on-politics-the-pandemic-and-song-of-co-aklan-his-first-album-in-10-years\/cathal20\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/02\/Cathal20.jpg?fit=1700%2C1275&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1700,1275\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;2.8&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;X20&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1568203259&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;25.6&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;100&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0.033333333333333&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Cathal20\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/02\/Cathal20.jpg?fit=640%2C480&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-67554\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/02\/Cathal20.jpg?resize=640%2C480&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"480\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/02\/Cathal20.jpg?resize=300%2C225&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/02\/Cathal20.jpg?resize=1024%2C768&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/02\/Cathal20.jpg?resize=768%2C576&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/02\/Cathal20.jpg?resize=1536%2C1152&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/02\/Cathal20.jpg?resize=400%2C300&amp;ssl=1 400w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/02\/Cathal20.jpg?w=1700&amp;ssl=1 1700w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/02\/Cathal20.jpg?w=1280&amp;ssl=1 1280w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Not least of these is\u00a0<strong>Scott Walker<\/strong>, the singer with whom he&#8217;s perhaps most often compared.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Scott was indeed a big influence on me, and a what I\u2019d also term a big hero of the culture. He\u2019s left us a pretty astonishing catalogue, which no-one will ever emulate \u2013 from teenage Roy Orbison soundalike in LA, to Bisch Bosch and Soused in London, with nuggets at every stage.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;The album of his which I tend to return to is <em><strong>Climate Of Hunter<\/strong><\/em>. The later records are equally brilliant, but the mode of their construction is part of a process unattainable to all but Scott and his collaborators.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Coughlan also expresses genuine affection for <strong>The Pop Group<\/strong>,\u00a0<strong>Magazine <\/strong>and the melodies of S<strong>andy Denny<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Other things I tend to revisit often are <strong>Jim O\u2019Rourke<\/strong>\u2019s song records, from <em><strong>Bad Timing<\/strong><\/em> onwards to the present day. There\u2019s <strong>Lal Waterson<\/strong>, <strong>Martin Carthy<\/strong>, <strong>Planxty<\/strong> and its offshoots, <strong>Gavin Bryars<\/strong>, <strong>Bill Evans<\/strong>\u2019 <strong><em>Symbiosis<\/em><\/strong>, <strong>Mark Lanegan <\/strong>and <strong>Todd Rundgren<\/strong> &#8211; for the sophisticated audacity of Todd\u2019s chord changes \u2013 unreachable.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>The prevalence of Irish artists is telling, for though he&#8217;s long been in exile, Coughlan contnues to be held in high esteem in his native country.<\/p>\n<p>In 2006 he was described by The Irish Times as the &#8216;genius of Irish rock&#8217; and in 2019 along with his Microdisney bandmates, became the first recipient of Ireland\u2019s <strong>National Concert Hall Trailblazer Award<\/strong>, prompting a brief revival of\u00a0 his old band.<\/p>\n<div class=\"jetpack-video-wrapper\"><span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"youtube-player\" width=\"700\" height=\"395\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/1drcINSwOWw?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;fs=1&#038;hl=en-GB&#038;autohide=2&#038;start=2&#038;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" style=\"border:0;\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\"><\/iframe><\/span><\/div>\n<p>The Cork-born musician is proud of his roots and grateful for the support he&#8217;s received.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Ireland has a particularly tolerant attitude to auto-didacts in the creative arts field, which somewhat belies the place\u2019s still-evident conservatism in some quarters.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Play my stuff to John Banville {Irish novelist and critic of &#8216;wokeism&#8217;}, and it might not go over very well. But my early ventures with Microdisney didn\u2019t get us arrested, where in the UK they might well have.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>He feels his origins &#8220;massively&#8221; shaped the songwriter he&#8217;s become.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;The other things I take from it would be the type of rural social environment I grew up in, which was very specific to that place and time and by no means all bad \u2013 though it had its drawbacks.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Also the attitude to storytelling, and the fact that being from a small country means you don\u2019t very easily write off other cultures, whether they come your way in the form of Turkish music or small-press poetry from America \u2013 you\u2019re impressionable for life, I think, which is both good and bad.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s in marked contrast to his enduring contmpt for the British Tory government, which has been criticised for its lack of support for performers and musicians during the pandemic.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;It doesn\u2019t surprise me at all, though I detest it. Even in Theresa May\u2019s cabinet (when the cabinet members could still be appointed on the basis of criteria other than where they sat ideologically in May\/June 2016), the relevant department of state was run by someone whose idea of a \u2018cultural artefact\u2019, by her own admission, was the puzzle magazine.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;The cultural life of this country and the tax revenues it generates owe nothing to the Tory party, and never did. Now that this party is in majoritarian revenge mode, we see what we get.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>After 40 years in the business, Coughlan fears that the combined affect of the pandemic and technological advances could spell disaster for studios and live venues.<\/p>\n<p>He&#8217;s also suspicious of streaming and the way revenue is funneled away from content creators.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;It\u2019s great to have instant access to music which we\u2019d have had to spend countless fruitless afternoons in basements scouring bins to find, and it\u2019s great to have a \u00a3200 piece of software which allows one to record all manner of sound wherever one is, and to be able to paste others\u2019 contributions into it. It\u2019s not a straight quid pro quo, though, and I don\u2019t know where it\u2019s going.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;The best hope lies with the younger artists. like <strong>Jockstrap<\/strong> or <strong>Kid Krule<\/strong>, to name but two, who\u2019ve only ever known things to work this way, and are exploiting the music-creation end of it to make music which is unlike anything heard before.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Asked if he fears cancel culture might suppress future iconclasts from taking on authority in the same way he has done, Coughlan&#8217;s answer is equivocal.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Some things do deserve to get cancelled,&#8221; he says. &#8220;I don\u2019t want to hear that <strong>Skrewdriver<\/strong> {notorious Neo-Nazi ounk band} made a couple good albums, for example.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;And people have said that to me, in a kind of &#8216;deal with it&#8217; way in the past.That\u2019s an extreme case, but I don\u2019t think people should use social media to hurt people.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;The important thing for me is to not purchase an entire \u2018bill of goods\u2019 from a tribe with which one identifies on an emotional level, but to consider each issue for oneself, and where one has no reliable knowledge of an issue, to stay out of it.&#8221;<\/p>\n<div class=\"jetpack-video-wrapper\"><span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"youtube-player\" width=\"700\" height=\"405\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/xGnyYW_nrXs?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;fs=1&#038;hl=en-GB&#038;autohide=2&#038;start=2&#038;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" style=\"border:0;\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\"><\/iframe><\/span><\/div>\n<p>A keen student of history, Coughlan clearly keeps his finger on the pulse of world events and, despite his aversion to Brexit, he&#8217;s quick to condemn the EU for its part in an unseemly row with the UK over COVID-19 vaccination supplies.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;It\u2019s sad, scary and indicative of the immature thinking which has completely taken over the functions of government across the world, since the end of the Cold War. It\u2019s not coincidental that the press now expects us all to hang on the vaccine administration sayings of Tony Blair!<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;There\u2019s simultaneously an insistence that we must all face back into unlimited global travel, and no insistence that the low-income world needs, as a matter of urgency, to be drawn under the shield of the vaccines. It\u2019s all too typical, I\u2019m afraid.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Having watched\u00a0 the assault on Capitol Hill in the dying days of the Trump adinistration, does Biden&#8217;s election offer him more hope for the future?<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I can\u2019t say that it does. While the absence of malice at the top of US politics is good news for those of us who live in its orbit, I\u2019m afraid it\u2019s impossible to ignore the 75 million votes cast for the orange idiot and his KKK outlook on the US\u2019 civic life.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;America will never be West European social democrat in its outlook, and I fear that its centre of gravity in ideology has permanently shifted to something more akin to various failed states of the past.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>While working on the album appears to have given him real purpose during lockdown, he&#8217;s clearly champing at the bit to get out into the world again.<\/p>\n<p>He speaks longingly of wanting to return to Ireland and of touring the album in whatever capacity.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I have no idea whether the songs will sound anything like the record by then, due to the undefined number of people I might be able to bring to play them with me, but it\u2019s certainly the main thing I need to do next.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Though content with his position on the fringes of the music business &#8211; &#8220;I\u2019ve never been so na\u00efve as to think that someone who\u2019s as odd as me would somehow parlay that into global cultural appeal&#8221; &#8211;\u00a0 you get the impression he&#8217;s delighted to be back on active service.<\/p>\n<p>Besides the new solo record, he&#8217;s bringing out an album with <strong>REM\u00a0<\/strong>producer\u00a0<strong>Jacknife Lee\u00a0<\/strong> and seems genuinely humbled that friends and admirers are rallying to his cause.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I have a feeling it may be getting easier,&#8221; he says of his songwriting &#8211; and for those of us who&#8217;ve missed him over the last 10 years, that can only be a good thing.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>Singles Owl<em> In The Parlour<\/em> and <em>Song of Co-Aklan <\/em>are available digitally across online platforms, oncluding Apple Music and Spotify. <\/strong><\/li>\n<li><strong>The full album, set for release on Dimple Discs on March 26, can be pre-ordered <a href=\"https:\/\/ffm.to\/songofcoaklanalbum\"><span style=\"color: #ff0000\">here<\/span><\/a>.<\/strong><\/li>\n<li><strong>For more about Cathal Coughlan visit his pages on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/cathalcoughlan\"><span style=\"color: #ff0000\">Facebook<\/span><\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/realcathalc\"><span style=\"color: #ff0000\">Twitter<\/span><\/a>, or check out his <a href=\"https:\/\/cathalcoughlan.com\/wp\/\"><span style=\"color: #ff0000\">website<\/span><\/a>.<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Carving out a reputation as one of indie&#8217;s most challenging and erudite lyricists with\u00a0Microdisney\u00a0in the &#8217;80s,\u00a0Cathal Coughlan went and did it all 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