{"id":54143,"date":"2019-09-16T13:18:35","date_gmt":"2019-09-16T12:18:35","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/?p=54143"},"modified":"2019-09-23T17:01:50","modified_gmt":"2019-09-23T16:01:50","slug":"thick-as-thieves-from-the-jams-bruce-foxton-on-weller-buckler-and-reviving-setting-suns-for-a-40th-anniversary-tour","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/2019\/09\/thick-as-thieves-from-the-jams-bruce-foxton-on-weller-buckler-and-reviving-setting-suns-for-a-40th-anniversary-tour\/","title":{"rendered":"THICK AS THIEVES &#8211; From The Jam\u2019s Bruce Foxton On Weller, Buckler And Reviving  &#8216;Setting Sons&#8217; For A 40th Anniversary Tour"},"content":{"rendered":"<h4>Unless you&#8217;ve been living in a cave for the best part of half a century, you&#8217;ll know <strong>Bruce Foxton <\/strong>as one-third of one of the best bands Britain has ever produced<strong>.<\/strong><\/h4>\n<p>Blessed with a righteous anger, raw musicality and the astonishingly mature songwriting talent of\u00a0<strong>Paul Weller,<\/strong>\u00a0<strong>The Jam\u00a0<\/strong>would go on to have 18 consecutive top 40 singles and release one live and six studio albums.<\/p>\n<p>Blending Mod style with punk aggression, the band smashed their way into the mainstream, while cocking a snook at the establishment.<\/p>\n<p>With Foxton and drummer\u00a0<strong>Rick Buckler <\/strong>providing the engine to drive his songs, Weller would rapidly emerge as the voice of a generation.<\/p>\n<p>Hit followed hit and the band seemed unstoppable until Weller, to the bewilderment and consternation of his bandmates, pulled the plug in 1982.<\/p>\n<p>Here Foxton tells\u00a0<strong>Matt Catchpole<\/strong> of his heartache at hearing Weller wanted to split the band, his joy at rebuilding his relationship with The Modfather and flying the flag for the band&#8217;s music with <strong>From The Jam.<\/strong><\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_55441\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-55441\" style=\"width: 620px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"55441\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/2019\/09\/thick-as-thieves-from-the-jams-bruce-foxton-on-weller-buckler-and-reviving-setting-suns-for-a-40th-anniversary-tour\/jam2_3353166b\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/jam2_3353166b.jpg?fit=620%2C387&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"620,387\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"jam2_3353166b\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/jam2_3353166b.jpg?fit=620%2C387&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"wp-image-55441 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/jam2_3353166b.jpg?resize=620%2C387&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"620\" height=\"387\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-55441\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">All classics, no rubbish &#8211; Weller, Buckler and Foxton<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><strong>You\u2019re tackling <em>Setting Sons<\/em> to mark the 40<sup>th<\/sup> anniversary on your Autumn tour\u00a0 &#8211; what are your favourite tracks from that record <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Yeah, well it\u2019s like all of them, we finished <em><strong>All Mod Cons <\/strong><\/em>earlier in the year and I\u2019m really looking forward to this one. We had a band rehearsal yesterday and it\u2019s a just buzz to play them again &#8211; <em><strong>Wasteland<\/strong><\/em>\u2019s a lovely song and <em><strong>Burning Sky<\/strong><\/em>. So I&#8217;m really excited and amazed at the quality and standard of the writing. When we were recording I was just concentrating on my part, but all these years later, listening to them again, it\u2019s just incredible what Paul was singing about at such a young age. The recording was quite unique. Normally we would have had a week or two pre-production in a rehearsal room, chucking around all the ideas of the songs, But <em>Setting Sons<\/em> was different in that Paul was recording the basic idea during the day and then Rick and myself were working out our parts through the night. So that the following day when Paul came in we could crack on and record.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_54162\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-54162\" style=\"width: 585px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"54162\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/2019\/09\/thick-as-thieves-from-the-jams-bruce-foxton-on-weller-buckler-and-reviving-setting-suns-for-a-40th-anniversary-tour\/attachment\/98774\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/98774.jpg?fit=540%2C540&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"540,540\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"98774\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/98774.jpg?fit=540%2C540&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"wp-image-54162\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/98774.jpg?resize=585%2C585&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"585\" height=\"585\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-54162\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Little Boy Soldiers &#8211; Setting Sons&#8217; cover art featuring a photo of Benjamin Clemens&#8217; bronze sculpture The St John&#8217;s Ambulance Bearers<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><strong>So you recorded the album mostly &#8216;as live&#8217;?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>As much as we could, yeah, we did them live and then obviously in those days it was a two inch tape machine and <strong>Vic Smith<\/strong> {aka sound engineer <strong>Vic Coppersmith-Heaven<\/strong>} used to edit it in, if there were different time changes or whatever.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Having The Vapors as support must take you back too, particularly as you used to co-manage them<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Yeah it does. They were our guests when we played Salisbury &#8211; I think it was &#8211; last year. They\u2019re still great, you know. It\u2019s lovely to see them and renew our friendship &#8211; \u2018cos they all went off their separate ways as well for a while. They\u2019ve got some great songs. They\u2019re probably better musicians now &#8211; as we all are &#8211; I\u2019d like to think. It should be a great night out with two really good bands.<\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/2016\/08\/something-in-the-air-the-vapors-announce-first-live-headlining-tour-for-35-years\/\"><span style=\"color: #ff0000\">Dave Fenton<\/span><\/a> of The Vapors &#8211; said you used to play quite a few pranks on them. He said you once taped all their clothes to the ceiling while they were on stage.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Yes that\u2019s one that springs to mind now you mention it &#8211; it seems pretty childish now doesn\u2019t it (chuckling) &#8211; funny at the time &#8211; might have been alcohol-fuelled that one!<\/p>\n<div class=\"jetpack-video-wrapper\"><span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"youtube-player\" width=\"650\" height=\"405\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/v9glU6WzsdM?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;fs=1&#038;hl=en-GB&#038;autohide=2&#038;start=20&#038;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" style=\"border:0;\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\"><\/iframe><\/span><\/div>\n<p><strong>You patched things up with Paul some time ago &#8211; and he played on your albums <\/strong><em><strong>Back In the Room<\/strong><\/em><strong> and <\/strong><em><strong>Smash The Clock. <\/strong><\/em><strong>You&#8217;ve also recorded at his studio &#8211; what was it like getting back in a room with him again and playing together?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>It was a real buzz. It first came about that we were in Paul\u2019s studio working on <em>Back In The Room<\/em> &#8211; the first Foxton-Hastings album. Paul has his offices there as well and obviously he pops in and out quite a lot doing Paul Weller business. He stuck his head in and we chatted and he listened to a few bits and pieces and we managed to get him to record on a few tracks which was great.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Were you nervous of each other at first?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>When he was working on his <em>Wake Up The Nation<\/em> album &#8211; he asked me if I\u2019d be up for playing on a track or two. But when it came to actually going in the studio, there were so many people in the control room &#8211; expectation was high. You could tell they were all thinking: \u2018What\u2019s this going to be like? It could be fantastic or an absolute disaster.&#8217; He\u2019d sent me the tracks, I\u2019d worked out what I was gonna play and sent it back to him on a cd and he\u2019d really liked it. So {recording} was just like the old days, it was so relaxed. It was more the audience\u2019s &#8211; for want of a better word &#8211; expectations, but we just went about recording as we did all those years ago. {We} had a chat and a catch up and a bit of a laugh in amongst it all and he seems to be happy with the end result.<\/p>\n<p><strong>I read that Rick left From The Jam by email and you\u2019d not heard from him since &#8211; have you had any recent contact?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>No sadly, and it\u2019s got to that stage now that I really can\u2019t be bothered any more. I haven\u2019t even heard him say to anybody else why he doesn\u2019t want to speak to us. If I\u2019ve done something wrong then point it out to me and I\u2019ll either apologise, or say that\u2019s bollocks, you know. It\u2019s a shame, because we\u2019re all getting that much older, and life\u2019s too short. It\u2019s silly {for him} to still continue it. I sent a Christmas card and you don\u2019t get anything back. So there\u2019s no point, sadly. He knows where I am, he\u2019s still got my number, if he ever wants to give us a bell.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_54163\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-54163\" style=\"width: 1024px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"54163\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/2019\/09\/thick-as-thieves-from-the-jams-bruce-foxton-on-weller-buckler-and-reviving-setting-suns-for-a-40th-anniversary-tour\/22647424-1024x768\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/22647424-1024x768.jpg?fit=1024%2C768&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1024,768\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"22647424-1024&amp;#215;768\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/22647424-1024x768.jpg?fit=640%2C480&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"wp-image-54163 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/22647424-1024x768.jpg?resize=640%2C480&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"480\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-54163\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">All Mod Cons &#8211; The Jam campaigning outside parliament<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><strong>So there was no row or anything?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Not that I\u2019m aware of. Honestly it\u2019s mystifying, but there we are, it\u2019s a shame.<\/p>\n<p><strong>The Jam are seen as a Mod band but you came up during the punk era &#8211; did you set out with a particular style of music in mind?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Well, in the very early days we were a covers band just playing some rock\u2019n\u2019roll classics &#8211; <strong>Chuck Berry<\/strong> and stuff, <strong>The Beatles <\/strong>perhaps<strong>. <\/strong>Just to get a gig in the Woking area, you had to play that material, with a few of Paul and <strong>Steve Brooks<\/strong>&#8216;\u00a0songs thrown in as well &#8211; they were very similar to the classics.<\/p>\n<p><strong>But when you started to really break through and establish your own identity did you feel an affinity with the punk bands?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I think generally we had an affinity with the punk movement. Anybody getting up on stage and doing it was refreshing. When we went the <strong>100 Club<\/strong> and saw <strong>The Sex Pistols<\/strong> that had a big impression, particularly on Paul and consequently the direction of the band. We were called &#8216;the black sheep of the punk movement&#8217; &#8211; really because we wore suits, not bondage trousers. But we had a lot in common with a lot of those bands.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_55443\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-55443\" style=\"width: 1024px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"55443\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/2019\/09\/thick-as-thieves-from-the-jams-bruce-foxton-on-weller-buckler-and-reviving-setting-suns-for-a-40th-anniversary-tour\/26686503799_e9d7ccd6ee_b-1\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/26686503799_e9d7ccd6ee_b-1.jpg?fit=1024%2C1024&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1024,1024\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"26686503799_e9d7ccd6ee_b-1\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/26686503799_e9d7ccd6ee_b-1.jpg?fit=640%2C640&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"wp-image-55443 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/26686503799_e9d7ccd6ee_b-1.jpg?resize=640%2C640&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"640\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-55443\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">That&#8217;s Entertainment &#8211; Foxton takes flight, picture by Pennie Smith<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><strong>Did you get on well with the punks?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Paul was pretty close with <strong>Joe Strummer<\/strong>, but I personally just kept pretty much myself to myself. We didn\u2019t really hang out with The Clash or the Pistols or anything like that.<\/p>\n<p><strong>How did Paul break the news to you that he was splitting up the band to form The Style Council &#8211; had you known it was coming?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s a long time ago, but we were touring, I think it might have been in Japan and Paul was well pissed off basically. So we knew something was wrong, but it could\u2019ve been anything, girlfriend trouble, whatever. But he called a meeting when we got back to England and we were like, well that\u2019s very unusual, we never have meetings called. And yeah, that\u2019s when he dropped the bombshell that he wanted to leave the band. I suppose, looking back on his frame of mind, you knew something was troubling him, but I didn\u2019t have it down that he wanted to break the band up.<\/p>\n<p><strong>How did you feel when you got that news. Did you think &#8216;Oh god, what am going to do now?&#8217;<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Yeah exactly. Gutted. Particularly the morning after the last show in Brighton. You\u2019ve got a hangover and you\u2019ve got no band &#8211; that was just a sense of emptiness really &#8211; that really is the end, what\u2019s next? \u00a0It hurt my heart at the time to say the least.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_54166\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-54166\" style=\"width: 410px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"54166\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/2019\/09\/thick-as-thieves-from-the-jams-bruce-foxton-on-weller-buckler-and-reviving-setting-suns-for-a-40th-anniversary-tour\/slf\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/slf.jpg?fit=350%2C372&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"350,372\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"slf\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/slf.jpg?fit=350%2C372&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"wp-image-54166\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/slf.jpg?resize=410%2C436&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"410\" height=\"436\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-54166\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Still Burning &#8211; Foxton (right) was in Stiff Little Fingers for 15 years<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><strong>You played and wrote with Stiff Little Fingers for longer than you were in The Jam &#8211; how did you come to join them?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Yeah exactly. Fifteen years in Stiff Little Fingers. I became friends with <strong>Jake Burns <\/strong>and the drummer <strong>Dolphin <\/strong>{<strong>Taylor<\/strong>}<strong>. Henry <\/strong>{<strong>Cluney<\/strong>} was always there but I didn\u2019t really speak to him &#8211; I wasn\u2019t as close with him as I was to Jake. I recorded four albums with them. Coupled with a <em>lot<\/em> of drinking (laughs) and we\u2019re still buddies now.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Working with Russell &#8211; is it very different to how you used to write with Paul?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Yeah, very different, particularly with technology &#8211; iPhones etc, you know. Quite a lot of our initial ideas are recorded at a particular show, once we\u2019ve done our soundcheck and everybody\u2019s happy. Russ might have a riff, or I might have something and we\u2019ll just kick it around on stage as part of the soundcheck, put it down on our iPhones and work on it at a later date. We\u2019ve got a lot of ideas like that, probably enough for another album but it\u2019s finding the time to get in the studio at the moment, We\u2019re really busy with the band and when we\u2019re not with the band you want some family life.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_54167\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-54167\" style=\"width: 2000px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"54167\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/2019\/09\/thick-as-thieves-from-the-jams-bruce-foxton-on-weller-buckler-and-reviving-setting-suns-for-a-40th-anniversary-tour\/from-the-jam_1\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/FROM-THE-JAM_1.png?fit=2000%2C2388&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"2000,2388\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"FROM THE JAM_1\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/FROM-THE-JAM_1.png?fit=640%2C764&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"wp-image-54167 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/FROM-THE-JAM_1.png?resize=640%2C764&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"764\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-54167\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Back In The Room &#8211; Foxton (right) and Russell Hastings<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><strong>You seem to be incredibly busy playing live shows &#8211; did you imagine you\u2019d still be playing so regularly into your sixties?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I didn\u2019t look this far ahead. All those years ago, it was very much day to day, but it\u2019s a testament to the quality of the songs. They\u2019ve stood the test of time and what we\u2019re doing &#8211; we\u2019re out there flying the flag &#8211; but if somebody said to me {then} in 40 years\u2019 time you\u2019re still going to playing Jam songs I\u2019d have just laughed in their face and said don\u2019t be ridiculous. I remember saying &#8211; either to <strong>Pete Townshend <\/strong>\u00a0or <strong>John Entwistle &#8211; <\/strong>at the<strong> Speakeasy Club <\/strong>in London many moons ago when we were young whippersnappers and they were in their forties: &#8216;You\u2019re too old, you should give up you lot&#8217; (laughs). And here I am nearly 64 and I\u2019m still doing it.<\/p>\n<p><strong>&#8216;I hope I die before I get old&#8217; and all that<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Yeah exactly. A mate of mine gave me a <strong>Keith Moon <\/strong>book on my 50<sup>th<\/sup> &#8211; he said: \u201cDon\u2019t you die before you get old\u201d in his inscription inside.<\/p>\n<div class=\"jetpack-video-wrapper\"><span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"youtube-player\" width=\"650\" height=\"405\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/5ipGhzrIi3s?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;fs=1&#038;hl=en-GB&#038;autohide=2&#038;start=40&#038;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" style=\"border:0;\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\"><\/iframe><\/span><\/div>\n<p><strong>You\u2019ve gone the Pledge Music route with your recent albums &#8211; it was a model that seemed to suit you?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>It was fantastic &#8211; I hear that it\u2019s all gone terribly wrong now with Pledge Music and it\u2019s no longer in existence. At the time, we tried a couple of labels, but giving large sums of money away these days ain\u2019t what they do. We had a couple of near misses &#8211; they liked it &#8211; but they didn\u2019t want to invest. And we heard about Pledge Music and we didn\u2019t know at all how it worked, but it was a great way of really getting the fans involved. They pledged for buying the album, or a bit of artwork, or there was even a round of golf there at some point with Russ and myself. Pledge in a way enabled us to record the albums, we couldn\u2019t have done it without their help. I think we were lucky when we did it because everything went so well, but I hear now that Pledge has gone to the wall &#8211; so that leaves us with a problem when we do the next album.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Have you got any ideas about how you might do it?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I\u2019m going to have to get my thinking cap on and ask around, but I\u2019m wondering if there\u2019s another company out there that\u2019s doing something similar.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_55447\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-55447\" style=\"width: 759px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"55447\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/2019\/09\/thick-as-thieves-from-the-jams-bruce-foxton-on-weller-buckler-and-reviving-setting-suns-for-a-40th-anniversary-tour\/w1200_a593_bruce_foxton\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/w1200_a593_Bruce_Foxton.jpg?fit=759%2C588&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"759,588\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"w1200_a593_Bruce_Foxton\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/w1200_a593_Bruce_Foxton.jpg?fit=640%2C496&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"wp-image-55447 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/w1200_a593_Bruce_Foxton.jpg?resize=640%2C496&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"496\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-55447\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Picture courtesy of @DerekD&#8217;Souza<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><strong>And how do think your new songs compare with The Jam ones &#8211; do they fit together well live?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Thankfully, stuff like <em><strong>Number Six <\/strong><\/em>or <em><strong>Now The Time Has Come <\/strong><\/em>&#8211; we had a bit of radio play success with that &#8211; they kind of blended in almost seamlessly. Because that was our concern, where do you place a Foxton and Hastings song in amongst all these great Jam tracks? But they were well accepted, the audience loved them. So yeah, they slotted in perfectly well.<\/p>\n<p><strong>You\u2019re recognised as one of the world\u2019s premier bass players &#8211; but which bassists do you admire and why?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Well probably similar to Paul really, obviously {<strong>Paul<\/strong>} <strong>McCartney <\/strong>-I\u2019m a big fan &#8211; and then over the years, Entwhistle, <strong>Phil Lynott<\/strong>, guys like that.<\/p>\n<p><strong>You performed lead vocals on Jam songs like <em>News of the World<\/em> and the Kinks\u2019 cover <em>David Watts<\/em> among others &#8211; how did you decide who sang lead?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Well with <em>News of the World<\/em> &#8211; it was like well, it\u2019s your song you sing it, there was never any arguments. With David Watts obviously it\u2019s a Kinks track. It was off the <strong><em>Something Else<\/em><\/strong> album and we liked it and became one of our favourites livewise and it also did the Kinks a lot of good. I can\u2019t actually remember why I was designated to sing that &#8211; I don\u2019t know how it came about.<\/p>\n<div class=\"jetpack-video-wrapper\"><span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"youtube-player\" width=\"650\" height=\"405\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/z_H8XoHjDmE?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;fs=1&#038;hl=en-GB&#038;autohide=2&#038;start=5&#038;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" style=\"border:0;\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\"><\/iframe><\/span><\/div>\n<p><strong>So what\u2019s next for you and Russell? Is there another studio album in the offing?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Well as I said, we\u2019ve got a lot of ideas on our phones which we need to sift through at some point. But we need time. It would be nice to say yeah 2020 we\u2019ll do it and maybe we will, but we\u2019re lucky there\u2019s such a demand for those Jam songs that we have so much work. For 2020 our calendar\u2019s pretty full, anyway and bear in mind we do want some family life as well, but at some point, yeah, there will be another Foxton and Hastings album. But before that this 40<sup>th<\/sup> anniversary tour goes on till about April and then there\u2019ll be some acoustic shows and then we\u2019ll be out playing the greatest hits again. It just keeps rolling on and, thankfully, the audiences keep getting bigger. My agent even asked us the other day: &#8216;Do you reckon you\u2019ll still be doing it when you\u2019re 70?&#8217; And I said: \u201cWell, I\u2019d like to think so\u201d and he said: &#8216;Oh that\u2019s great because to get the best venues I have to book \u2018em well in advance.&#8217; So there you go then. I\u2019ll be working when I\u2019m 70, apparently.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>From The Jam&#8217;s\u00a0<em>Setting Sons <\/em>40th anniversary tour kicks off at Dorking Halls on 10 October. Full list of dates and tickets <a href=\"https:\/\/www.seetickets.com\/tour\/from-the-jam-setting-sons-\"><span style=\"color: #ff0000\">here<\/span><\/a>.<\/strong><\/li>\n<li><strong>For more about From The Jam and Foxton-Hastings visit the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.fromthejamofficial.com\/\"><span style=\"color: #ff0000\">official website<\/span><\/a>.<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<div class=\"jetpack-video-wrapper\"><span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"youtube-player\" width=\"650\" height=\"405\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/4em6_mNWPZk?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;fs=1&#038;hl=en-GB&#038;autohide=2&#038;start=5&#038;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" style=\"border:0;\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation 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