{"id":36359,"date":"2018-05-31T15:34:10","date_gmt":"2018-05-31T14:34:10","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/?p=36359"},"modified":"2018-06-13T10:37:45","modified_gmt":"2018-06-13T09:37:45","slug":"doctor-beat-punk-icon-rat-scabies-on-the-damned-drumming-and-his-indulgent-debut-solo-album-phd","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/2018\/05\/doctor-beat-punk-icon-rat-scabies-on-the-damned-drumming-and-his-indulgent-debut-solo-album-phd\/","title":{"rendered":"DOCTOR BEAT &#8211; Punk Icon Rat Scabies on The Damned, Drumming And His &#8216;Indulgent&#8217; Debut Solo Album &#8216;PHD&#8217;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"36412\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/2018\/05\/doctor-beat-punk-icon-rat-scabies-on-the-damned-drumming-and-his-indulgent-debut-solo-album-phd\/iu-2\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/iu-2.jpeg?fit=981%2C735&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"981,735\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"iu\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/iu-2.jpeg?fit=300%2C225&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/iu-2.jpeg?fit=640%2C480&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-36412\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/iu-2.jpeg?resize=640%2C480&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"480\" \/><\/p>\n<h4 style=\"text-align: justify;\">More than 40 years after <strong>The Damned<\/strong> lit the blue touch paper for the punk rock revolution, original drummer Rat Scabies is busier than ever.<\/h4>\n<h4 style=\"text-align: justify;\">Since quitting his old band amid some rancour in the late &#8217;90s, he&#8217;s played in numerous outfits and developed interesting sidelines in cigar box guitar-making and the little matter of hunting for the holy grail.<\/h4>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">After starting his professional career as an orchestra pit player, Rat recently returned to his theatrical roots, backing\u00a0<strong>Jane Horrocks<\/strong> in\u00a0<em><strong>If You Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me<\/strong><\/em> at the\u00a0<strong>Young Vic<\/strong>.<br \/>\n<script async src=\"\/\/pagead2.googlesyndication.com\/pagead\/js\/adsbygoogle.js\"><\/script><br \/>\n<!-- Random Ad stuff --><br \/>\n<ins class=\"adsbygoogle\" style=\"display: block;\" data-ad-client=\"ca-pub-2076862002005673\" data-ad-slot=\"3107208401\" data-ad-format=\"auto\"><\/ins><br \/>\n<script>\n(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({});\n<\/script><br \/>\nHe&#8217;s a member<span style=\"font-size: 15.2015px;\">\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 0.95em;\">of London-based rhythm and punk trio\u00a0<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/TheMutants.RhythmAndPunk\/photos\/a.667507329956857.1073741825.667505636623693\/1630901323617448\/?type=1&amp;theater\"><strong style=\"font-size: 0.95em;\">The Mutants<\/strong><\/a>, with\u00a0<strong>Chris Constantinou<\/strong>\u00a0and <strong>Paul Frazer<\/strong>,\u00a0and in February released\u00a0<em><strong>Disintegrate Me\u00a0<\/strong><\/em>with\u00a0<strong><a href=\"http:\/\/professorandthemadman.com\/index\/\">Professor and the Madman<\/a>.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">The\u00a0<strong>PATM<\/strong> album sees Rat re-uniting on record with\u00a0bassist\u00a0<strong>Paul Gray\u00a0<\/strong>(The Damned,\u00a0<strong>UFO<\/strong>,\u00a0<strong>Eddie and The Hot Rods<\/strong>) for the first time in more than 25 years.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">But the reason EP&#8217;s\u00a0<strong>Matt Catchpole<\/strong> is chatting to the erstwhile\u00a0<strong>Chris Millar\u00a0<\/strong>on this scorching Spring afternoon, is <em><strong>P<\/strong><\/em><em><strong>rison, Hospital, Debt\u00a0<\/strong><\/em>&#8211;\u00a0<em><strong>PHD\u00a0<\/strong><\/em>for short &#8211; the drummer\/writer\/producer&#8217;s first ever solo album.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Featuring vocals and lyrics from\u00a0<strong>Flipron<\/strong>&#8216;s\u00a0<strong>Jesse Budd<\/strong> and bass from <strong>Nick Oblivion<\/strong>, it&#8217;s an extraordinarily\u00a0eclectic album, raging from raw punk and blues to jazz and psychedelia.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">In a widely ranging interview, Rat talks about the making of <em>PHD<\/em>, the birth of punk, touring with <strong>T-Rex\u00a0<\/strong>and why he doesn&#8217;t miss being in The Damned.<\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"36410\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/2018\/05\/doctor-beat-punk-icon-rat-scabies-on-the-damned-drumming-and-his-indulgent-debut-solo-album-phd\/imageedit_9_9754558723\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/imageedit_9_9754558723.jpg?fit=550%2C300&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"550,300\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"imageedit_9_9754558723\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/imageedit_9_9754558723.jpg?fit=300%2C164&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/imageedit_9_9754558723.jpg?fit=550%2C300&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-36410\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/imageedit_9_9754558723.jpg?resize=640%2C349&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"349\" \/><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>So the obvious question \u2013 why a solo album after 40 years in the business?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">I haven\u2019t really got a full time band, these days. The money was never enough and it was kind of tough to keep it going, so I haven\u2019t really got a vehicle. So I thought, well, I\u2019ve got these songs here and something should happen to them, really. <strong>Matt Green<\/strong> at <strong>Cleopatra<\/strong> had suggested I do a record, so, I just kind of went: &#8216;Yeah let\u2019s put this out!&#8217; It feels quite indulgent actually having your own record. (chuckles)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>You have Jesse Budd<\/strong> <strong>singing on the album. Were you not tempted <\/strong><strong>to put your own vocals on the record?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Kind of, but I\u2019m not really a singer. It\u2019s one of the things you learn along the way that if you\u2019ve got somebody like Jesse who can sing \u2013 and he wrote the lyrics as well \u2013 there\u2019s nobody better to do it. My other option was to get a load of famous mates to be on the record to help punt it. But I sort of said: &#8216;Well fuck that!&#8217; I always believe in my friends\u2019 talent and it would be nice to have them heard.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>Is it all new material or stuff you\u2019d worked on over many years?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Some of it is recent, as recent until right up until we cut the album. The track<em><strong> Benni\u2019s Song<\/strong><\/em>\u00a0literally only got finished in the same week that the album came out. Some of the other stuff is a couple of years old and then there\u2019s a couple of things that go back to the late \u201880s-\u201890s \u2013 when the band wasn\u2019t particularly functioning well, or wasn\u2019t doing anything &#8211; there\u2019s a couple of things from that time I felt should\u2019ve seen the light of day and now they have.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>Any songs you\u2019re particularly proud of?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">It\u2019s such a difficult question to answer really, because they are all so personal. They are all very evocative of the mood I was in when I wrote the song, so it\u2019s kind of tough to say which is my favourite. One of the ones I always smile at when it comes on is <strong><em>Floydian Slip<\/em><\/strong> \u2013 I like the performances on it as well. But I don\u2019t think I can honestly pick a favourite.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>Did the songs bring back memories for you?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Yeah! and the period that you were doing things. I\u2019ve always been kinda keen on studio technology and how the process works and so with some of the tunes it&#8217;s nostalgic almost. You think: &#8216;Yeah that was the Emulator II \u2013 I remember when we had that&#8217;. When you write a piece of music it\u2019s kind of a part of you, it\u2019s not a day job.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_36413\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-36413\" style=\"width: 1280px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"36413\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/2018\/05\/doctor-beat-punk-icon-rat-scabies-on-the-damned-drumming-and-his-indulgent-debut-solo-album-phd\/rat-scabies-photo-by-rob-wade\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/Rat-Scabies-photo-by-Rob-Wade.jpg?fit=1280%2C853&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1280,853\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Rat Scabies &amp;#8211; photo by Rob Wade\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;Picture by by Rob Wade&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/Rat-Scabies-photo-by-Rob-Wade.jpg?fit=300%2C200&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/Rat-Scabies-photo-by-Rob-Wade.jpg?fit=640%2C427&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"wp-image-36413 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/Rat-Scabies-photo-by-Rob-Wade.jpg?resize=640%2C427&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"427\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-36413\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Monument Man &#8211; Picture by by Rob Wade<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><strong>Why the cover of Louis Prima&#8217;s\u00a0<em>Sing Sing Sing<\/em> \u2013 is that a track you really like?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Growing up I was hearing a lot of jazz, when I was young there wasn\u2019t really much else going on musically. There\u2019s always a drum solo on pretty much every jazz song that\u2019s ever played, so I kind of always really dug that element of it. And of course on that particular track the drums lead the way and it\u2019s got such a brilliant arrangement, melody lines and production. It was really nice to do a stripped down version of it \u2013 I was originally going to do it as a big band, you know, layer the brass parts and all that kind of stuff. But as soon as we put it down with the piano there was a charm and I thought this probably shows the song off in a much better light without me adding loads of extra bits to it. I just thought it would have devalued the song if I\u2019d done any more to it than that. It\u2019s all about the two performances.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>Listening to <em>Chew On You<\/em> it sounds like you&#8217;ve made good use of\u00a0<\/strong><strong>some of your cigar box guitars?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Oh yeah! On that one actually is the very first one I ever made. So that\u2019s very sentimental as well. They were a thing I started making because my son gave me a box, I had a piece of wood that was about the same size and a guitar neck and some spare tuning keys. And I just remember this story about how the old Blues guys built them when they couldn\u2019t go to a store and buy a guitar. It\u2019s really interesting musically when you have to start thinking that there\u2019s nothing to tune to, there wasn\u2019t a piano in the room. It was all done by ear and it\u2019s about tuning because it sounds right, as opposed to what you\u2019ve been taught. So there\u2019s a much more cerebral thing going on when you play a slide guitar made from a cigar box \u2013 the rule book has been thrown away.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>How long does it take you to make one?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">It depends on how tough the box is, but usually a day, day and a half. I\u2019ve made 84 I think now, so I\u2019ve got quite used to the process. It\u2019s a bit of a recycling thing, a therapeutic thing \u2013 it\u2019s nice to do. And it\u2019s kinda cool \u2018cos people send me videos of them playing the guitars. One man\u2019s junk is another man\u2019s treasure and something positive comes out of it. It\u2019s a good feeling.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>You seem to have very eclectic musical taste, are you always searching for different styles of music?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Good music is good music &#8211; it doesn\u2019t matter what genre or label it has. Somebody like the <strong>Beach Boys<\/strong>, for example. A lot of the Beach Boys I can\u2019t stand, but some of their tracks are absolutely outstanding. I\u2019m not a fan but they do have something good in there and I enjoy that. With any kind of music there\u2019s good and bad and they\u2019re the only two kinds there are really.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>What inspires you? What&#8217;s your writing process?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">I mess around really. I find tone and sound is a great inspiration and I&#8217;ll just be playing the guitar through an amp or a keyboard or something and going: &#8216;Ah! That sounds quite good! What have I done? Can I repeat it? What can happen next?&#8217; I can\u2019t sit down and just write, I have to make it up as I go along. I\u2019m always looking for a moment of inspiration that leads on to something.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_36409\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-36409\" style=\"width: 2205px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"36409\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/2018\/05\/doctor-beat-punk-icon-rat-scabies-on-the-damned-drumming-and-his-indulgent-debut-solo-album-phd\/sony-dsc-3\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/Rat-Scabies-Kit-Man-photo-by-Tim-Hart-copy.jpg?fit=2205%2C2275&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"2205,2275\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;SONY DSC&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;SONY DSC&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"SONY DSC\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;Picture by Tim Hart&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/Rat-Scabies-Kit-Man-photo-by-Tim-Hart-copy.jpg?fit=291%2C300&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/Rat-Scabies-Kit-Man-photo-by-Tim-Hart-copy.jpg?fit=640%2C660&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"size-full wp-image-36409\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/Rat-Scabies-Kit-Man-photo-by-Tim-Hart-copy.jpg?resize=640%2C660&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"660\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-36409\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Picture by Tim Hart<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>Starting out, what was it about the drums that appealed to you?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Just that sound \u2013 the tom toms. It\u2019s the first thing I remember hearing and thinking that\u2019s what I\u2019m gonna be \u2013 that\u2019s what I\u2019m gonna do.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>Any particular drummers that inspired you?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">It was <strong>Eric Delaney<\/strong>, who was on <strong><em>Sunday Night At The London Palladium<\/em><\/strong> and he was a showman drummer. He had two bass drums with lights inside them and he played timpani and dashed around behind the kit.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>Any drummers you admire among today\u2019s musicians?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Not really \u2013 there\u2019s a few people who are really good, but the bar\u2019s been raised so high these days. <strong>Joey\u00a0<\/strong>(<strong>Castillo<\/strong>) who\u2019s been in <strong>Eagles of Death Metal<\/strong>\/<strong>Queens of the Stone Age<\/strong>, I like his playing, he\u2019s pretty good. He was the last guy I saw that I thought there\u2019s some imagination going on in there.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>Do you still consider yourself a student of the drums, are you still learning?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Oh totally! I\u2019ll never know enough.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>You\u2019ve set fire to a few drum kits over the years \u2013 any times when it didn\u2019t quite go to plan?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Yeah! I&#8217;ve had my share of second degree burns and trips to outpatients (laughs). The kits very rarely got burnt. You see, without giving too much away, it\u2019s the cymbals that get set on fire rather than the drums and as they\u2019re made of metal they tend not to burn or get damaged as much, but it\u2019s a very sensational effect. It was usually other people panicking that created a situation, people throwing beer on them to try and put it out.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>There&#8217;s a clip of you on a Michael Aspel discussion show <em>&#8216;What&#8217;s Wrong With The Seventies&#8217;<\/em>, when people are looking a bit freaked out after you set the drums alight during <\/strong><em><strong>Smash It Up<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">That was a time when there was real issue! Everybody knew I was going to do it. They gave me a larger bottle of lighter fuel with a bigger nozzle than normal, because it was for TV and everybody thought that would be okay. Before the show they had given me a fire safety word to shout out like &#8216;wheelbarrow&#8217; or something, if things went wrong. But nobody realised how out of control it would get and then I couldn\u2019t remember the safety word the fireman had given me! So they were all standing by and everything\u2019s really cool until you realise that the set behind you is beginning to melt and the flames are actually \u2013 well you\u2019ve seen it! And things are starting to get a bit out of control. But luckily (chuckles) things didn\u2019t get any worse than that.<\/p>\n<div class=\"epyt-video-wrapper\">\n<div  style=\"display: block; margin: 0px auto;\"  id=\"_ytid_99407\"  width=\"640\" height=\"480\"  data-origwidth=\"640\" data-origheight=\"480\"  data-relstop=\"1\" data-facadesrc=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/HDtixwbCdJ4?enablejsapi=1&#038;origin=https:\/\/essentiallypop.com&#038;autoplay=0&#038;cc_load_policy=0&#038;cc_lang_pref=&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;loop=0&#038;rel=0&#038;fs=1&#038;playsinline=0&#038;autohide=2&#038;theme=dark&#038;color=red&#038;controls=1&#038;disablekb=0&#038;\" class=\"__youtube_prefs__ epyt-facade epyt-is-override  no-lazyload\" data-epautoplay=\"1\" ><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" data-spai-excluded=\"true\" class=\"epyt-facade-poster skip-lazy\" loading=\"lazy\"  alt=\"The Damned - Smash it Up (Rare Footage)\"  src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/i.ytimg.com\/vi\/HDtixwbCdJ4\/maxresdefault.jpg?w=640&#038;ssl=1\"  \/><button class=\"epyt-facade-play\" aria-label=\"Play\"><svg data-no-lazy=\"1\" height=\"100%\" version=\"1.1\" viewBox=\"0 0 68 48\" width=\"100%\"><path class=\"ytp-large-play-button-bg\" d=\"M66.52,7.74c-0.78-2.93-2.49-5.41-5.42-6.19C55.79,.13,34,0,34,0S12.21,.13,6.9,1.55 C3.97,2.33,2.27,4.81,1.48,7.74C0.06,13.05,0,24,0,24s0.06,10.95,1.48,16.26c0.78,2.93,2.49,5.41,5.42,6.19 C12.21,47.87,34,48,34,48s21.79-0.13,27.1-1.55c2.93-0.78,4.64-3.26,5.42-6.19C67.94,34.95,68,24,68,24S67.94,13.05,66.52,7.74z\" fill=\"#f00\"><\/path><path d=\"M 45,24 27,14 27,34\" fill=\"#fff\"><\/path><\/svg><\/button><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>You left The Damned around the recording of the <\/strong><em><strong>Not of this Earth<\/strong><\/em><strong> album \u2013 can you explain a bit about what happened there?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">We did the record and my own take on it was that <strong>Dave<\/strong> {<strong>Vanian<\/strong>} really wanted to concentrate on the<strong> Phantom Chords<\/strong> more than The Damned. It all came down to publishing credits in the end. <strong>Alan Lee Shaw<\/strong> and I had written the album and Dave had written very little and he\u2019d asked for publishing credits and Alan said no. It never got resolved and they both got the hump and it was all kind of ugly and messy really. It\u2019s just the politics of when people think there\u2019s going to be money involved. People get upset because other people don\u2019t turn up for rehearsals, recordings or anything else to support the record. It\u2019s a long story.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>You&#8217;re playing again with Damned bassist Paul Gray in Professor and The Madman was that a good experience?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Well we haven\u2019t been in the same room together. It was a funny one really. I\u2019ve put the drums on most of the Professor and the Madman records. And because that was their favourite line-up of The Damned. They asked if I minded if Paul put some bass on. He did and I think it sounds good. You can\u2019t deny really, that was a pretty good rhythm section. I think we\u2019re going to be doing a show on August 10<sup>th<\/sup>, which will the first time Paul and I have been on stage together since the 1980s.<\/p>\n<div class=\"epyt-video-wrapper\">\n<div  style=\"display: block; margin: 0px auto;\"  id=\"_ytid_84487\"  width=\"640\" height=\"360\"  data-origwidth=\"640\" data-origheight=\"360\"  data-relstop=\"1\" data-facadesrc=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/mDfxjYC-fEo?enablejsapi=1&#038;origin=https:\/\/essentiallypop.com&#038;list=PLaeql1XSXkJYgcgNttm3WfrjPPPvmPYHI&#038;autoplay=0&#038;cc_load_policy=0&#038;cc_lang_pref=&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;loop=0&#038;rel=0&#038;fs=1&#038;playsinline=0&#038;autohide=2&#038;theme=dark&#038;color=red&#038;controls=1&#038;disablekb=0&#038;\" class=\"__youtube_prefs__ epyt-facade epyt-is-override  no-lazyload\" data-epautoplay=\"1\" ><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" data-spai-excluded=\"true\" class=\"epyt-facade-poster skip-lazy\" loading=\"lazy\"  alt=\"Space Walrus - PATM\"  src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/i.ytimg.com\/vi\/mDfxjYC-fEo\/maxresdefault.jpg?w=640&#038;ssl=1\"  \/><button class=\"epyt-facade-play\" aria-label=\"Play\"><svg data-no-lazy=\"1\" height=\"100%\" version=\"1.1\" viewBox=\"0 0 68 48\" width=\"100%\"><path class=\"ytp-large-play-button-bg\" d=\"M66.52,7.74c-0.78-2.93-2.49-5.41-5.42-6.19C55.79,.13,34,0,34,0S12.21,.13,6.9,1.55 C3.97,2.33,2.27,4.81,1.48,7.74C0.06,13.05,0,24,0,24s0.06,10.95,1.48,16.26c0.78,2.93,2.49,5.41,5.42,6.19 C12.21,47.87,34,48,34,48s21.79-0.13,27.1-1.55c2.93-0.78,4.64-3.26,5.42-6.19C67.94,34.95,68,24,68,24S67.94,13.05,66.52,7.74z\" fill=\"#f00\"><\/path><path d=\"M 45,24 27,14 27,34\" fill=\"#fff\"><\/path><\/svg><\/button><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>Is it true most punk musicians went by aliases so they could keep signing on the dole?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">Yeah \u2018cos we knew we\u2019d be in the papers and things and it was a good way to avoid having your money stopped \u2018cos without the dole system there wouldn\u2019t have been a music business. It really was such a vital thing. And the other thing of course was, I really wasn\u2019t sure that punk rock could last for more than a couple of months. I thought if I\u2019m Chris Millar and I\u2019m associated with this lot, then I\u2019m not going to get a straight job playing in an orchestra again, being a pit player or any of those other things. I just thought it [having a stage name] would be quite a good get out of jail card.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>Are you amazed how the name has stuck over the years?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">It\u2019s a lucky ball and chain really. It\u2019s a name nobody ever forgets, but it\u2019s a name that creates a kind of persona of its own. You know, I\u2019m not pleading schizophrenia, as in it\u2019s an excuse for bad behaviour, I\u2019m just saying it\u2019s a preconception that goes with Rat Scabies and at times even I\u2019m aware of that and live up to it.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>Iggy Pop has spoken about being a punk legend and getting the icon discount, do you get any benefits like that?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">(Laughs) None at all! Well you know, I probably do, but I\u2019m such an ungrateful bastard, I doubt if I even realise.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong style=\"font-size: 0.95em;\">Your grail-hunting adventures have been chronicled in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.co.uk\/Scabies-Holy-Grail-Christopher-Dawes\/dp\/0340832118\">Christopher Dawes&#8217; book<\/a> \u2013 how did you get interested in that?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">It\u2019s all my parents\u2019 fault really. My father was interested in Atlantis, UFOs, corruption, conspiracies etc etc. It was all fair game for him and a lot of the discussion around the dinner table centred around that. It\u2019s not that I\u2019m a believer, but there are quite a lot of things that are unexplained. I always give the example of UFOs, out of all the thousands of claimed sightings, it would only take one of them to be real and that changes everything. I\u2019ve seen a couple of things that can be tough to explain, so you have to keep an open mind, but at the same time I\u2019m incredibly sceptical about it all. I\u2019ve upset a few mediums by pointing out we\u2019re standing by a door and that\u2019s why there\u2019s a cold spot.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>Do you enjoy solving puzzles and codes? Is that an element of your fascination?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">There\u2019s that to it, but I usually end up scratching my head and being completely wrong with whatever answer I come up with. What I have discovered with the whole grail thing is that I don\u2019t believe it\u2019s about a physical object. There\u2019s at least four cups that match the description and age it\u2019s supposed to be, but I don\u2019t think it\u2019s about that. I think it\u2019s more about the discovery that you make when you start looking for the grail, whatever that grail may be. Without going on that topic, I would never have visited The Louvre and I\u2019d never have started looking at art and I\u2019d never have known anything about The Templars or the history, or what was going on with the Crusades, or the people involved. It\u2019s about the voyage of discovery. The journey is more fun than the arrival.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_36414\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-36414\" style=\"width: 729px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"36414\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/2018\/05\/doctor-beat-punk-icon-rat-scabies-on-the-damned-drumming-and-his-indulgent-debut-solo-album-phd\/damnedouttake\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/damnedouttake.jpg?fit=604%2C388&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"604,388\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"damnedouttake\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;Cake That! &amp;#8211; Outtake from Damned Damned Damned cover shoot&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/damnedouttake.jpg?fit=300%2C193&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/damnedouttake.jpg?fit=604%2C388&amp;ssl=1\" class=\" wp-image-36414\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/damnedouttake.jpg?resize=640%2C411&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"411\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-36414\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Cake That! &#8211; Outtake from Damned Damned Damned cover shoot<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>So it\u2019s similar to music in a way?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Yeah, it\u2019s about creating and doing something new. One of the reasons I don\u2019t miss being in The Damned is that the fans want to see the band play <strong><em>New Rose<\/em><\/strong> and <strong><em>Love<\/em> <em>Song<\/em><\/strong> and<strong> <em>Neat Neat Neat,<\/em><\/strong> but that was all a long time ago and I\u2019m probably not the same person and probably wouldn\u2019t do it as well as I did back then. You become a musician to advance and create and to just have to keep on playing the same songs, because that\u2019s what pays the rent is kind of a shame. You have to keep on writing and creating.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>The Damned were pretty quick to dispense with the classic three chord punk thrash anyway weren\u2019t they?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Well we had a lot of lucky accidents, one of them being that with the second album <strong>Brian<\/strong> {<strong>James<\/strong>} hadn\u2019t managed to come up with enough songs and suddenly we were faced with the thing of writing and <strong>Captain<\/strong> {<strong>Sensible<\/strong>} and I sitting there and going: &#8216;How does this work?&#8217; I remember looking at a guitar and the frets on it and saying to him: &#8216;Well it\u2019s on there somewhere all you have to do is move your fingers in the right order and then they\u2019re yours.&#8217; We had that na\u00efve attitude that if it sounds like a song then it probably is one. On that album our main songwriter had stopped writing and it opened the door for us to go on and move on to other things, which then in turn led to that whole thing of we didn\u2019t want any rules, we didn\u2019t want to be tied down to any one genre \u2013 that was as boring for us as it would have been for the audience.<\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"36407\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/2018\/05\/doctor-beat-punk-icon-rat-scabies-on-the-damned-drumming-and-his-indulgent-debut-solo-album-phd\/t-rex-damned\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/t-rex-damned.jpg?fit=448%2C335&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"448,335\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"t-rex-damned\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/t-rex-damned.jpg?fit=300%2C224&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/t-rex-damned.jpg?fit=448%2C335&amp;ssl=1\" class=\" wp-image-36407 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/t-rex-damned.jpg?resize=612%2C458&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"612\" height=\"458\" \/><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>You toured with Marc Bolan&#8217;s T-Rex in the early days \u2013 what was he like to be around?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Marc was totally cool \u2013 he was brilliant! We\u2019d just been fired off the Anarchy tour, which was sitting in the back of a shitty van and it was kind of miserable and well, the Pistols were ok, but the management issues were pretty nasty and unpleasant. So when we went out with Marc it was totally different. He let us travel with him on the bus. We were really well looked after by him, much more than he needed to. It was good for us to get our songs over to his audience and I think it was good for him. I think he realised that a lot of punk bands had been Marc Bolan fans. He was a proper gent.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>How did Motorhead&#8217;s Lemmy come to have a short stint in the band?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">The Doomed! Yeah, we used to know him from about \u201975 hanging around in Notting Hill Gate. The thing that made Lemmy cooler than the other hippies was that he was an outspoken <strong>MC5<\/strong> fan and the association with <strong>The Pink Fairies<\/strong> and that kind of political, alternative thinking kind of crowd. Over the years we got matey with him and he ended up playing bass for us on a couple of bits and pieces.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><strong>Did Punk feel like a movement at the time, or was it just kids having fun?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">You were sort of aware of being part of collection of misfits. We knew that there weren\u2019t that many people like us around. A lot of the people that were around actually didn\u2019t go on to join bands, or be musical, they were just around and likeminded. When it became front page news and everybody knew what a punk was, it became much more of a stereotype with the hair and the leather jacket \u2013 that sort of missed the point a bit. It <em>was<\/em> very creative. You look at the people in those old pictures and the way we recycled bin liners and old shoes and shirts. It was a bit like an alternative Blue Peter experiment &#8211; stuff that you\u2019d found in the local Oxfam shop. As soon as that stopped and it wasn\u2019t the point any more, everyone started looking the same and you ended up trying to get rid of one kind of society and creating one that\u2019s even smaller and harder to be a part of.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_36406\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-36406\" style=\"width: 980px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"36406\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/2018\/05\/doctor-beat-punk-icon-rat-scabies-on-the-damned-drumming-and-his-indulgent-debut-solo-album-phd\/9437d060-ef49-11e6-8960-2c6b8565de23_1280x720\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/9437d060-ef49-11e6-8960-2c6b8565de23_1280x720.jpg?fit=980%2C551&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"980,551\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"9437d060-ef49-11e6-8960-2c6b8565de23_1280x720\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/9437d060-ef49-11e6-8960-2c6b8565de23_1280x720.jpg?fit=300%2C169&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/9437d060-ef49-11e6-8960-2c6b8565de23_1280x720.jpg?fit=640%2C360&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"wp-image-36406 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/9437d060-ef49-11e6-8960-2c6b8565de23_1280x720.jpg?resize=640%2C360&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-36406\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Nice church boys &#8211; Rat (2nd left) with Captain Sensible, Dave Vanian and Brian James<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>Do you think punk&#8217;s kind of Year Zero approach could ever happen again?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Well I hope so. I think it will. Sociologically will we ever be in the same place that creates those kind of conditions that are perfect for punks to turn up? Punk was all about the fact that it was a generation that had nothing. Stating that very loudly and saying: &#8216;Well as we have nothing, we\u2019ll show you what we can do!&#8217;.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>You speak to a lot of young musicians \u2013 what\u2019s the best piece of advice you give them?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Don\u2019t listen to me!<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>Lastly, any plans for live shows to promote the album?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Not at the moment. We are talking about it, but I\u2019m really undecided if I wanna take it out on the road. There\u2019s a lot going on {on the album} and could we do it justice live? I\u2019d like people to leave a gig thinking: &#8216;Wow! that was good, I wasn\u2019t expecting that!&#8217; &#8211; rather than just trying to knock a tune out.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li style=\"text-align: justify;\"><em><strong>Prison, Hospital, Debt<\/strong><\/em><strong>\u00a0is out now on Cleopatra Records via <a href=\"https:\/\/ratscabies.bandcamp.com\/album\/p-h-d\">bandcamp<\/a>.<\/strong><\/li>\n<li style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>Professor and The Madman play a one-off show at London&#8217;s 100 Club on 10 August. Tickets on sale\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.wegottickets.com\/event\/439092\">here<\/a>.<\/strong><\/li>\n<li style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>For more about Rat Scabies visit his official website on this <a href=\"http:\/\/ratscabies.com\/\">link<\/a>.<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<div class=\"epyt-video-wrapper\">\n<div  style=\"display: block; margin: 0px auto;\"  id=\"_ytid_84242\"  width=\"640\" height=\"360\"  data-origwidth=\"640\" data-origheight=\"360\"  data-relstop=\"1\" data-facadesrc=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/fi3YHEBIMT4?enablejsapi=1&#038;origin=https:\/\/essentiallypop.com&#038;autoplay=0&#038;cc_load_policy=0&#038;cc_lang_pref=&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;loop=0&#038;rel=0&#038;fs=1&#038;playsinline=0&#038;autohide=2&#038;theme=dark&#038;color=red&#038;controls=1&#038;disablekb=0&#038;\" class=\"__youtube_prefs__ epyt-facade epyt-is-override  no-lazyload\" data-epautoplay=\"1\" ><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" data-spai-excluded=\"true\" 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