{"id":26555,"date":"2017-04-11T15:10:56","date_gmt":"2017-04-11T14:10:56","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/?p=26555"},"modified":"2017-04-13T18:50:14","modified_gmt":"2017-04-13T17:50:14","slug":"punching-above-his-weight-mark-nevin-on-bowie-morrissey-and-finding-his-voice-as-a-solo-artist","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/2017\/04\/punching-above-his-weight-mark-nevin-on-bowie-morrissey-and-finding-his-voice-as-a-solo-artist\/","title":{"rendered":"PUNCHING ABOVE HIS WEIGHT &#8211; Mark Nevin On Bowie, Morrissey And Finding His Voice As A Solo Artist"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"26566\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/2017\/04\/punching-above-his-weight-mark-nevin-on-bowie-morrissey-and-finding-his-voice-as-a-solo-artist\/nevin-cover-crop\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/04\/nevin-cover-crop.jpg?fit=2257%2C2755&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"2257,2755\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1480692889&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"nevin cover crop\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/04\/nevin-cover-crop.jpg?fit=640%2C781&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-26566\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/04\/nevin-cover-crop.jpg?resize=640%2C781&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"781\" \/><\/p>\n<h4>It&#8217;s not often you get to talk\u00a0to someone who&#8217;s had a number one single and double platinum album, had a song covered by <strong>David Bowie<\/strong> and who also just happens to be a fully qualified psychotherapist.<\/h4>\n<h4>So it was with some degree of trepidation I picked up the &#8216;phone to chat with <strong>Mark Nevin<\/strong>\u00a0about his new solo album\u00a0<em><strong>My Unfashionable Opinion<\/strong><\/em>.<\/h4>\n<p>I needn&#8217;t have worried, Mark is one of the most relaxed\u00a0and down ro earth artists I&#8217;ve ever had the fortune to speak to.<\/p>\n<p>Easy going and quick to laugh, he&#8217;s in good spirits, buoyed by positive reviews of the album and its jubilant live launch\u00a0at St Pancras Old Church in London (see video below).<\/p>\n<p>Blooming\u00a0with pride about the backing band he calls his family, he&#8217;s ebullient and poetic about what he describes as the &#8220;magic&#8221; of songwriting.<\/p>\n<p>Over the course of a wide-ranging interview, he speaks with moving honesty about his struggle to cope with the sudden and dramatic fame of <strong>Fairground Attraction<\/strong>, his &#8220;bonkers&#8221; time working with <strong>Morrissey <\/strong>and getting &#8220;out of his tree&#8221;\u00a0with\u00a0<strong>Kirsty MacColl<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>Oh and then there&#8217;s the time he wrote a song with\u00a0<strong>Ringo Starr <\/strong>and attended the recording presided over by a certain <strong>George Martin<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>But we begin with his idol, Bowie, who recorded the Nevin-Morrissey composition\u00a0<em><strong>I know It&#8217;s Gonna Happen Someday<\/strong><\/em> in 1993, and whose tragic death last year helped provide the motivation\u00a0for Mark&#8217;s new album.<\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"26561\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/2017\/04\/punching-above-his-weight-mark-nevin-on-bowie-morrissey-and-finding-his-voice-as-a-solo-artist\/vttabernacle\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/04\/VTTabernacle.jpg?fit=2565%2C1924&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"2565,1924\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;2.2&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;iPhone 6 Plus&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1427205326&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;4.15&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;125&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0.1&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"VTTabernacle\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/04\/VTTabernacle.jpg?fit=640%2C480&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-26561 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/04\/VTTabernacle.jpg?resize=640%2C480&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"480\" \/><\/p>\n<p><strong>Tell me a bit about what inspired the album \u2013 <em>My Unfashionable\u00a0Opinion<\/em> sounds like a bit of a statement of intent?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>David Bowie dying was a big part of it. He was such an important person to me growing up. The reason why I bought a guitar in the first place really \u2013 so when he died, I think, like a lot of people of my generation, I was really saddened. Up to that point, I used to worry that one day I\u2019d run out of songs, or run out of ideas and then it just became apparent I was more likely to run out of time. Like Bowie did, he was writing like crazy &#8211; in that video at the end with <strong><em>Lazarus<\/em><\/strong>, he\u2019s just writing, writing, writing, because he knows he\u2019s going to go. And I thought: &#8220;Wow! Maybe I should do that now \u2013 rather than the day before I die&#8221;. So that was a big impetus to really get the energy going. And getting out with my band and for the first time really enjoying my position at the centre of the stage. It\u2019s taken me a long time to feel comfortable there and not really feel like I was pretending. So stepping up to that was a real part of it.<\/p>\n<p><strong>There seems to be a quiet defiance about the lyrics &#8211; is that fair to say?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Absolutely yeah! If you come and see my show that is definitely the theme \u2013 joyful defiance. When I was a kid no-one said: \u201cOh go and be a songwriter\u201d, they said exactly the opposite: \u201cYou can\u2019t do that! \u2013 that\u2019s not a job\u201d. Then when I started singing my publisher said: \u201cOh you\u2019re committing career suicide\u201d. Everyone\u2019s told me I can\u2019t do what I\u2019ve done \u2013 all my life! So I keep doing exactly what I want, whatever they say, in fact I\u2019m more inclined to do something they tell me not to do. It\u2019s part of the fun.<\/p>\n<p><strong>How did the album launch show go?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>It was absolutely amazing actually, because we had the <strong>Kick Horns<\/strong> with us, so it was 10-piece band, which we\u2019ve never had before and it was just thrilling with that huge brass section \u2013 it was just awesome and it went down a storm \u2013 it was packed \u2013 so we really feel like we\u2019ve properly launched it now.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Is performing live a real joy for you these days?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>It is now, it really is. Everything seems to have gone up a big notch and because I\u2019m doing what I thought was impossible, which is singing and making my own records, performing them and having a really fantastic response to them, I think it\u2019s like: \u201cWow! It\u2019s all becoming real now!\u201d It\u2019s very exciting.<\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"26560\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/2017\/04\/punching-above-his-weight-mark-nevin-on-bowie-morrissey-and-finding-his-voice-as-a-solo-artist\/11_05_nevin-5708-edit\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/04\/11_05_Nevin-5708-Edit.jpg?fit=2392%2C3000&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"2392,3000\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;16&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;SUKEY PARNELL&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;NIKON D3X&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1305550576&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;2009 Sukey@sukeyparnell.com&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;35&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;100&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0.008&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"11_05_Nevin-5708-Edit\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/04\/11_05_Nevin-5708-Edit.jpg?fit=640%2C803&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-26560\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/04\/11_05_Nevin-5708-Edit.jpg?resize=640%2C803&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"803\" \/><\/p>\n<p><strong>Do you feel more confident as a solo artist now with five albums under your belt?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Completely. At first you think you\u2019re having a go at this, or something, people don\u2019t really take it seriously. For years people have been asking (does whiny journalist impression) \u201cWill you get Fairground Attraction back together?\u201d- that seems to be a thing of the past now. It\u2019s not something I would ever do and people are seeing that THIS is what I do.<\/p>\n<p><strong>When you first started out as a singer was it a completely new thing for you?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Well, the thing is, my dad was Welsh and he liked <strong>Mario Lanza<\/strong> and <strong>Harry Secombe<\/strong> and that\u2019s what you were supposed to sing like and if you didn\u2019t sing like that you couldn\u2019t sing and you SHOULDN\u2019T sing. So I didn\u2019t &#8211; and when I wrote songs I looked for singers who were \u2018proper\u2019 singers \u2013 people who my dad would approve of (chuckles). But most of the records I like are by people like <strong>Neil Young<\/strong> and<strong> Bob Dylan<\/strong>, <strong>Lou Reed<\/strong> and <strong>Leonard Cohen <\/strong>\u2013 they are all rubbish singers! So it\u2019s been a long journey to really stand in this position, so I believe it and own it.<\/p>\n<p><strong>You said you admired Lou Reed \u2013 \u00a0were you one of the people who formed a band after listening to <em>The Velvet Underground and Nico<\/em>?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Yeah definitely. The one that I really love is <strong><em>Live at Max\u2019s Kansas City <\/em><\/strong>\u2013 I love that! I loved all the talking in between {adopts Noo Yawk accent}. \u201cIs that Pernod? Give it me immediately\u201d \u2013 all that stuff! I actually spent the evening with <strong>Nico<\/strong> once, because when I was with <strong>Sandie Shaw<\/strong> I think they had the same tour manager. I remember being in Stoke Newington sitting on the sofa up there with Nico thinking: \u201cThis is pretty surreal\u201d.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Can you see yourself ever writing for another singer again?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Well a lot of people that I would have done it for are dead (laughs). And I never actually wrote for people anyway. I always wrote songs for myself and people sung them. I think if you start writing for someone you are putting the cart before the horse. I think that\u2019s the trouble with so much pop music is that record companies go: \u2018I\u2019ve got this singer, all we need now is some talent, so let\u2019s get a songwriter and producer and polish this into a handsome beast so that we can fool people into thinking this is a real artist.\u201d It\u2019s backwards, it\u2019s bonkers. So not really. I used to love<strong> Roberta Flack<\/strong> and if she did one of my songs, I\u2019d be utterly delighted, or <strong>Aretha Franklin<\/strong> people like that, but it\u2019s not really what I do anymore.<\/p>\n<p><strong>You took a nine-year break to train as a psychotherapist \u2013 what prompted that move?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Well partly because I didn\u2019t really know how to go forward as a songwriter at that point. I\u2019d made two solo albums, which had been breath-taking commercial failures. They\u2019d cost a lot of money to make and I thought what is the point in doing it. And at the same time, I\u2019d become fascinated by the whole idea of psychotherapy, because I went to therapy and I got interested and I started reading about it. So I absolutely loved that time of learning about therapy and becoming a therapist. But then, I sort of accidentally wrote some songs and after a while there were a few of them hanging around, so I started to record them at home and then I just felt frustrated because they just sounded like demos. So I just went into the studio, just to get a couple of them down, and then it just bounced. And I just enjoyed it so much coming back, because it was without any agenda at all. My training as a therapist has helped because I\u2019ve seen with other people how they stop themselves. I know as human beings we are all living so far below our capacity. And the song <strong><em>Punching Above My Weight <\/em><\/strong>is really about faith and doubt \u2013 the two sides of the same coin. That if we\u2019re not feeling out of our league a bit \u2013 we\u2019re not really living enough \u2013 we\u2019re too comfortable.<\/p>\n<p><a><div class=\"jetpack-video-wrapper\"><span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"youtube-player\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/TWKI6ZgZm1I?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;fs=1&#038;hl=en-GB&#038;autohide=2&#038;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" style=\"border:0;\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\"><\/iframe><\/span><\/div><\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>Did you find there was less pressure when you came back?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Well in a way there was no pressure, because nobody had any expectations at all! And nor did I! But the music business had changed so much in that time. Whereas before you could easily say, sell 10,000 cds \u2013 which wouldn\u2019t be regarded as much of a success \u2013 but that could make you 100 grand which means you can make another one and pay your band, whereas now it\u2019s really hard to do that, because of downloads and stuff.<\/p>\n<p><strong>You say songs come more easily if you can keep your ego out of the way \u2013 what do you mean by that?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The way I see it the songs are there \u2013 there\u2019s billions of them, floating around like dust particles in the air. If you just sort of put your hand out and open your palm they just fall into your hand. But as soon as you start grabbing them or saying: \u201cAh that\u2019s mine!\u201d \u2013 it\u2019s like grabbing soap and they just fly across the room. So it\u2019s about being open to them. I found that my therapy training and practice has really helped. When I first worked as a therapist \u2013 it was bit daunting because you\u2019re sitting there and someone\u2019s walking through the door, you don\u2019t know what they\u2019re going to say &#8211; what terrible awful problem they\u2019re going to present. But once you get beyond that you think: \u201cIt\u2019s nothing to do with me, it\u2019s to do with the relationship between me and them&#8221; and you sit there and the most important thing a therapist does is turn up and be present with that person. When you do that, something happens between you that neither of you could do on your own. It\u2019s the same with writing songs, it\u2019s just a connection to the energy of creation, for want of a better term. It\u2019s just like being open and it just comes. <strong>Stephen King<\/strong> in his book on writing said this brilliant thing: \u201cPeople think the muse is a chick, but to me it\u2019s a really grumpy old man and he will not go out of his way to help you, but if you turn up every day at your desk he has to help you because it\u2019s his job&#8221;. Like in the song <strong><em>The Stars Align <\/em><\/strong>I say: \u201c<em>I keep working, working until that moment comes along\/Sometimes the stars align\u201d<\/em>. And that\u2019s it \u2013 turning up, working hard, being open and magic happens.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Looking back now, did you find the immediate success of Fairground Attraction overwhelming?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Yes \u2013 we all did. We hadn\u2019t established a working relationship. We came together and very quickly got a record deal and very quickly we were Number One and before that {singer}\u00a0<strong>Eddi<\/strong> {<strong>Reader<\/strong>} and I were living in squats we were that broke. So suddenly we were dealing with sums of money that were like Monopoly stuff and then people were saying it was all about them and other people were saying it was all about you \u2013 oh God, it was a nightmare! (sighs).<\/p>\n<p><a><div class=\"jetpack-video-wrapper\"><span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"youtube-player\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/1F4q6s9-wvg?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;fs=1&#038;hl=en-GB&#038;autohide=2&#038;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" style=\"border:0;\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\"><\/iframe><\/span><\/div><\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>Was it surreal appearing on Top of the Pops and shows\u00a0like that?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>It was fantastic. As a kid you dream of that and then there you are. Particularly in the week where they go: &#8220;And the new Number One is\u2026\u201d You think: &#8220;This is actually happening!&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Can you remember the people you were on with?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I remember being on with <strong>Aztec Camera<\/strong>. I remember standing waiting to go on next to <strong>Kylie Minogue<\/strong> \u2013 she was so tiny and gorgeous, she was only about 20 then. For most people who are on Top of the Pops, it\u2019s new and exciting, there\u2019s a lot of nervous energy. I remember we were on there once and <strong>George Michael<\/strong> was on and he sent a message to the dressing room saying he\u2019d like to meet Eddi and her response was: \u201cWell he knows where I am\u201d (chuckles). So they never met each other! A diva standoff!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Moving on to your work with Morrissey, how did that first come about?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Well I think Morrissey was aware of me because, before Fairground Attraction, I was playing with <strong>Sandie Shaw<\/strong> at the time when she was doing <strong>The Smiths<\/strong>\u2019 stuff. So we would go out with her and play <strong><em>Always Something There To Remind Me <\/em><\/strong>and then<em> <strong>Hand In Glove<\/strong><\/em> and things like that. And then one day I was in the studio with\u00a0Kirsty (MacColl) actually and a phone call came through from my publisher and they said some guy wants to speak to you about Morrissey. He told me to speak to <strong>Andrew Paresi,<\/strong> who was Morrissey\u2019s drummer, and Andrew said Morrissey wants you to send him some music. I said: \u2018What do you mean?\u2019. And he said: \u2018That\u2019s it, that\u2019s all the information\u2019 (laughs). So I did these tracks that sounded like songs without a singer on and I sent them to him.\u00a0 A few days went by and I got a postcard from him and it just said \u201cPerfect!\u201d on it.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_26571\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-26571\" style=\"width: 800px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"26571\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/2017\/04\/punching-above-his-weight-mark-nevin-on-bowie-morrissey-and-finding-his-voice-as-a-solo-artist\/mozcard-copy\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/04\/mozcard-copy.jpg?fit=800%2C545&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"800,545\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"mozcard copy\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/04\/mozcard-copy.jpg?fit=640%2C436&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"wp-image-26571 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/04\/mozcard-copy.jpg?resize=640%2C436&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"436\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-26571\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Etch a postcard &#8211; Morrissey&#8217;s punning verdict on Mark&#8217;s music<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>That went on for some time &#8211; \u00a0with me sending these tapes in a Jiffy bag to \u2018<strong>Burt Reynolds\u2019 \u2013 <\/strong>that was his pseudonym \u2013 at this address in Manchester. I still hadn\u2019t met or spoken to him. Then one day I went to put one of these Jiffy bags in the post-box in Chalk Farm and just then Morrissey walked past \u2013 a complete coincidence \u2013 I said: \u201cOh Morrissey, it\u2019s Mark, this is for you\u201d and I gave him the Jiffy bag and he went bright red. And I said: \u201cI\u2019ll see you in the studio next week and he said: \u201cYeah okay\u201d. And the next time I saw him was in the studio at Hook End Manor and we recorded that album {<em><strong>Kill Uncle<\/strong><\/em>}.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Andrew Paresi (aka comedian Andrew McGibbon) gave a very funny account of the Hook End Manor sessions on the radio show \u201c<a href=\"http:\/\/www.curtainsforradio.co.uk\/music\/i-was-morrisseys-drummer\/iwmd-2009-2\/\">I was<em> Morrissey\u2019s Drummer<\/em><\/a>\u201d<\/strong><strong>\u00a0\u2013 what do you remember about that time?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I remember the first day there, because it was Andrew and <strong>Mark \u201cBedders\u201d (Bedford)<\/strong> from <strong>Madness <\/strong>on bass and me in the studio. The first song we did was <strong><em>Our Frank<\/em><\/strong>. Of course, at that point I\u2019d not heard the lyrics or anything, I\u2019m just playing the backing track. Then eventually Morrissey goes into the vocal booth and he\u2019s got the slap back echo like Elvis on his voice. And he starts singing &#8220;<em>My frank and vulgar red pullover&#8221;<\/em> and Mark Bedford and me are just laughing &#8211; partly because of nervous energy and partly because: \u201cOh look, we\u2019re in a studio with Morrissey \u2013 it\u2019s Morrissey\u2019s voice coming in through our headphones!\u201d And also because of the lyrics \u2013 there were just tears running down our faces! At the end of the song we just collapsed and Morrissey was utterly delighted by the effect it had on us.<\/p>\n<p>I also remember sitting around a dinner table \u2013 we had these fantastic caterers \u2013 all vegetarian of course \u2013 it was like a medieval vegetarian banquet every night. So there was this huge table full of people and we had some guests like <strong>Suggs<\/strong>, or <strong>Vic Reeves<\/strong> would turn up and Morrissey would sit at the head of the table. And he hardly says a word. He just sits there looking like Morrissey with the quiff and the glasses. I didn\u2019t know the rest of them and I was feeling pretty freaked out because my band had just broken up and I was feeling pretty raw and overwhelmed by everything that had happened over the last year or two, and it was just so awkward! You know when you talk to somebody who doesn\u2019t say anything \u2013 it\u2019s really awful \u2013 the less they say, the more you end up saying yourself and you can hear yourself talking rubbish \u2013 thinking {agonised voice} \u2018What am I saying?\u2019 it was a bit like that. It was a bonkers time, really.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Was he a difficult person to work with \u2013 I gather he often changed the structure of the songs?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Well yeah, I\u2019d have an idea for the intro, this is the middle bit, this the chorus, this is the verse, blah, blah, blah and I\u2019d give to him and he\u2019d sing everything in different places to I\u2019d\u2019ve imagined it, but it worked! And I think that\u2019s part of what made his songs so unique. He doesn\u2019t have any of the technical restraints of songcraft. I get the impression that he puts the cassette into his beatbox, gets his hairbrush and stands in front of the mirror and pretends to be a pop singer and comes up with this Morrissey melody and style. I remember {producer} <strong>Clive Langer<\/strong> saying {to Morrissey}: &#8220;You should just learn the guitar because then you could write all the songs on your own&#8221; and, while on one hand Clive had a point, I think it would have been very different if he had, because it would have become more formularised, it would have become more normal and less interesting.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_26565\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-26565\" style=\"width: 1469px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"26565\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/2017\/04\/punching-above-his-weight-mark-nevin-on-bowie-morrissey-and-finding-his-voice-as-a-solo-artist\/mark-moz-crop\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/04\/mark-moz-crop.jpeg?fit=1469%2C1034&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1469,1034\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1411486244&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"mark moz crop\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/04\/mark-moz-crop.jpeg?fit=640%2C450&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"wp-image-26565 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/essentiallypop.com\/epop\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/04\/mark-moz-crop.jpeg?resize=640%2C450&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"450\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-26565\" class=\"wp-caption-text\"><em>Come Back To Camden<\/em> &#8211; Peter Hogg, Kirsty MacColl, Mark Nevin, Morrissey &#8211; Hartland Road 1991<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><strong>No-one ever seems to have a bad word to say about Kirsty MacColl, did you enjoy writing with her? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Well it was the same {as Morrissey} really \u2013 I was giving tracks to both of them and I\u2019d swap them around and things (chuckles). Kirsty was a great laugh and there was an awful lot of drinking and spliffing going on. We were out of our trees! It\u2019s difficult to remember it. We\u2019d be in the studio all day and then we\u2019d stay up to four or five in the morning listening to records. The milkman would be coming in as I left her house. It was a mad time. It was good fun\u2026. And awful \u2013 both of them. Everyone was quite miserable really, quite tortured.\u00a0<strong>{The resulting album <em>Titanic Days<\/em>\u00a0charts the\u00a0break-ops of both\u00a0Mark and Kirsty&#8217;s marriages}<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Tell me about the song <em>I&#8217;m Yours<\/em>\u00a0you co-wrote with Ringo Starr \u2013 is it true you got invited to the recording session after popping out for a pint of milk?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I wrote a song with <strong>Mark Hudson<\/strong> who\u2019s an American producer, he produced <strong>Alice Cooper<\/strong>,<strong> Aerosmith<\/strong> and all sorts of people. We wrote it down at The Castle in the south of France, which belongs to {manager of <strong>Sting\/The Police<\/strong>}\u00a0<strong>Miles Copeland<\/strong> \u2013 he had these events called <strong>Eight Days A Week.<\/strong>\u00a0All sorts of songwriters would be invited to collaborate, including <strong>Carole King<\/strong>, who I worked with one day, which was just mindblowing. I wrote a song with Mark there and he took it back to L.A. Next thing he called me and said Ringo wants to do it, but he wants to write another verse. I never met Ringo Starr but he put a verse on the end of it and they asked me to send the guitar part over, so I sent it over to L.A where Ringo put the voice on. Then one day I was walking down the street and there\u2019s Mark Hudson in Chalk Farm, literally right by the post box where\u00a0I\u2019d seen Morrissey. I said: &#8220;Hey what you doing?\u201d He said: {adopts US accent} \u201cWe\u2019re working at <strong>Air Studios<\/strong>, actually yeah, we\u2019re gonna do our song tomorrow with <strong>George Martin<\/strong> do you wanna come?\u201d So I went up to Air Studios the next day and walked in. And then the orchestra came and George conducted them and spent the rest of the day talking to us and it was \u201cWhen we did <strong><em>Revolver <\/em><\/strong>this and when we did <strong><em>Sgt. Pepper<\/em><\/strong> that&#8221;. Fantastic!<\/p>\n<p><strong>So what was it like writing with all those legendary songwriters at Eight Days A Week?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>It was mad, you know very exciting, But, when I think about it, I think about how awful I felt back then, because my life had changed so much \u2013 it was unrecognisable from what it was a year or two before. My life was very simple before, I was just a lad strumming my guitar. Suddenly I was doing these things that were like a dream come true.\u00a0 I\u2019d be sitting at dinner and there\u2019d be Carole King there and there\u2019s <strong>Paul Carrack<\/strong> and there\u2019s <strong>Paul Brady<\/strong>. But, also at the same time I felt very lonely and a bit scared in the middle of it all. I didn\u2019t know anybody \u2013 there was that imposter syndrome, where you think: \u201cOh God are they going to find me out\u201d.<\/p>\n<p><strong>You seem in a much happier place as a writer and performer now?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Oh definitely! This is what I\u2019ve been waiting for all my life! It\u2019s great! I want to do loads of gigs. The core of the band is the same people I&#8217;ve been with for years. It&#8217;s like a family &#8211; and you can&#8217;t buy that sort of connection. They are just incredible! What I really need now is it to go up to another level in terms of audience \u2013 to be able to sell enough albums to finance the gigs.\u00a0 That\u2019s the thing that needs to happen now. People have been so positive about the album that I feel really kind of energised. I\u2019m really enjoying it!<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong><em>My Unfashionable Opinion <\/em>is out now via\u00a0Raresong Recordings<\/strong><\/li>\n<li><strong>Upcoming live dates include Pound Arts Centre, Corsham on\u00a0April 29, Warwick Arts Centre, Coventry, May 20 and \u00a0The George Inn, Warminster on 24 June.<\/strong><\/li>\n<li><strong>For more information visit Mark&#8217;s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.marknevin.com\">website\u00a0<\/a>\u00a0and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/user\/gardenshedhead\" target=\"_blank\">YouTube channel<\/a>.<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong>Here&#8217;s\u00a0a LIVE taster from Mark&#8217;s album launch show\u00a0at St Pancras Old Church, London, March 20, 2017<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a><div class=\"jetpack-video-wrapper\"><span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"youtube-player\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" 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